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Postby Trav199 » January 31st, 2011, 8:21 pm : Dumpsta, e series falcon Likes this post

Hey guy i know this is a turbo forum and that i had build thread on AFF but just been reading through some build threads and seem to be a good lot of lads on here..
I purchased my Bf n/a xr6 about 2 years ago and since then its had many different things done and changed.

Mods to date:
-20" Incubas paranormal rims
-Pedders ultra low springs
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-Port polished atomic head with compression raised
-Custom atomic billet camshafts
-Atomic valve springs
-Apr head stud kit
-Plazamaman Inlet Plenum/bottem half of intlet plenum ported to match head
-Xr8 throttle body with custom cai
-Custom hurrican Headers with 3.5" cat
-Hurrican twin 2.5' echaust
-20% U/D pulley
-WEAPON X COILS

To come:
-Kaaz diff centre with 3.7 diff gears
-change cai
-sort out the 6speed auto, 3500rpm stall
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Re: Trav's N/A Bf xr6

Postby InfernalTyrant » January 31st, 2011, 8:24 pm

Heaps of people here are N/A.
Got any pics you could put up?
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Re: Trav's N/A Bf xr6

Postby Dumpsta » January 31st, 2011, 8:27 pm

Hey bro, good to see you made it on here. You'll find the guys here are great, always full of advice, wisdom, common sense and booze. Throw up some piccys.. I dont think I have any I could add.
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Re: Trav's N/A Bf xr6

Postby Trav199 » January 31st, 2011, 8:27 pm

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As it has been pointed out the rr is at 200... Was in this mode to tune. This i did not no or realize. In NA6 shootout mode rr@125 it make 320rwhp. I do not have this dyno sheet as of yet. More to come once i get my intlet temps down from 53deg to around 40 or lower. I will post up other dyno sheet when i get it..
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Re: Trav's N/A Bf xr6

Postby Trav199 » January 31st, 2011, 8:29 pm

I need to get some with a decent camera hahaha..

Iphone video of it.. DOES NOT DO IT JUSTICE!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAYX3jNPFL8
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Re: Trav's N/A Bf xr6

Postby EFFalcon » January 31st, 2011, 8:29 pm

would love to see it get down the 1/4 once you get the diff and gearbox sorted
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Re: Trav's N/A Bf xr6

Postby InfernalTyrant » January 31st, 2011, 8:30 pm

Looks nice. I like those rims.
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Re: Trav's N/A Bf xr6

Postby Dumpsta » January 31st, 2011, 8:30 pm

We'll do a shoot sometime when you're down.. we'll clean em up and take em out.
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Re: Trav's N/A Bf xr6

Postby Trav199 » January 31st, 2011, 8:31 pm

yer me to mate.. hoping low 13s street trim.. and maybe 12s with abit of weight reduction and some sticky tyres on a E85 tune..
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Re: Trav's N/A Bf xr6

Postby Trav199 » January 31st, 2011, 8:34 pm

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hahaha old tips..

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With stage 2 crows and growler cai with 4490s and 2.5" exhaust

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Re: Trav's N/A Bf xr6

Postby Dumpsta » January 31st, 2011, 8:36 pm

Not showing up mate.
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Re: Trav's N/A Bf xr6

Postby Trav199 » January 31st, 2011, 8:37 pm

they are on my computer lol.. anyone else having problems??
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Re: Trav's N/A Bf xr6

Postby InfernalTyrant » January 31st, 2011, 8:40 pm

They're showing up for me.
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Re: Trav's N/A Bf xr6

Postby Cabeshere » January 31st, 2011, 9:48 pm

Looking good trav :)
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Re: Trav's N/A Bf xr6

Postby phunkshun » January 31st, 2011, 10:37 pm

That things sounds chunky mate, can't wait to see a 1/4mile time
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Re: Trav's N/A Bf xr6

Postby Kyle the ED4LTR » February 1st, 2011, 12:03 am

Welcome to Boosted mate, very nice rig you got there man, looks neat :)
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Re: Trav's N/A Bf xr6

Postby Trav199 » February 1st, 2011, 6:20 am

Cheers guys. Yer it does sound pretty mean hahaha.. I feel sorry for my neighbours who live in the same building of units when i start it at 5 every morning to let it warm up before going to work hahaha..

Yer this friday it goes back to the guy at Prodyno Rockhampton to get the Kaaz centre and 3.7 diff gears. The biggest problem we are having atm is the 6speed auto.. We are unable to put a stall in it until the software is released.. Software that has been coming since 06 but apparently according to Herrord we should see it this years.. If not going to go a fully manualizes 6speed auto.. that way we can trck the computer into thinking its a manual and therefore run a bigger stall :)

Also to change is intake setup where we have filter at them moment we are getting 53deg inlet temps so be nice to get that down..
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Re: Trav's N/A Bf xr6

Postby Dansedgli » February 1st, 2011, 6:40 am

How does it drive compared to standard when driving in traffic? Is the bottom end grunt sacrificed much?
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Re: Trav's N/A Bf xr6

Postby ClassicAU » February 1st, 2011, 6:53 am

Bloody hell, I didn't realise you could get this much power out of a DOHC atmo! Nice work!
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Re: Trav's N/A Bf xr6

Postby Trav199 » February 1st, 2011, 7:12 am

Yer not to bad just gota learn how to drive it.. it hasnt lost anything over standard down low but from what it was it has.. The biggest porblem due to size of the cam shafts the power range is like 3500rpm+ so bellow that there are a few spots aroun 2000rpm where it will stumble and WOT.. Its not that bad to drive considering tho. Diff gears will really help getting it off the line plus less load on the engine..

hahaha ClassicAu it has taken a while mate and alot of research by the guys at Prodyno.. We didnt expect to have problems with auto tho... But they arent the same as the turbo autos..
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Re: Trav's N/A Bf xr6

Postby Dumpsta » February 1st, 2011, 8:42 am

She goes :P.
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Re: Trav's N/A Bf xr6

Postby BROCKYB8 » February 1st, 2011, 9:36 am

Welcome .
Still waiting to see this do the quater mile .

And would love to see the right ramp rate dyno sheet
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Re: Trav's N/A Bf xr6

Postby Trav199 » February 1st, 2011, 2:38 pm

Cheers Brocky..

Yer mate 1/4 mile will come but at this stage wont be for a good few months..

Dyno sheet will be posted as soon as i get it.. Ill send then a email for it today if you like..
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Re: Trav's N/A Bf xr6

Postby SnyperEB » February 1st, 2011, 2:44 pm

Nice car, welcome.
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Re: Trav's N/A Bf xr6

Postby Trav199 » February 1st, 2011, 4:20 pm

cheers mate.. In a few years once off my Ps ill be bolting a turbo motor in...

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Re: Trav's N/A Bf xr6

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BROCKYB8 wrote:Welcome .
Still waiting to see this do the quater mile .

And would love to see the right ramp rate dyno sheet

Still waiting to see a dyno sheet of 220rwkw.
And a time slip too.

Welcome buddy, not a fan of the wheels but the engine setup is great.
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Re: Trav's N/A Bf xr6

Postby Trav199 » February 1st, 2011, 4:23 pm

yer not many like the rims.. pics dont really do em justice.. Not sure if ill keep them or not yet..
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Re: Trav's N/A Bf xr6

Postby jazza312 » February 2nd, 2011, 11:20 am

car looks good. impressive power too from a non turbo. might sound like a retarded question, but wat colour is it? looks red in some pics and blood orange in the others and the video.
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Re: Trav's N/A Bf xr6

Postby Trav199 » February 2nd, 2011, 12:46 pm

cheers mate.. yer it goes alright hahaha.. maybe some NOS next hahaha.. its vixen red.. yer its a pain to get the capture the colour with a camera.. and way hard to keep clean lol
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Re: Trav's N/A Bf xr6

Postby burnt turtle » February 2nd, 2011, 1:26 pm

i dont think i have ever seen a non turbo with a plenum made for boosted application before, did it make a big difference?
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Re: Trav's N/A Bf xr6

Postby Dumpsta » February 2nd, 2011, 5:20 pm

If what I can remember trav told me is right, plazmaman knocked it up to suit n/a application. I'd like to know how it goes versus individial t/b's, considering theres no where near the same pressure as in a boosted situation.
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Re: Trav's N/A Bf xr6

Postby Trav199 » February 2nd, 2011, 9:51 pm

yer plenum was made to suit n/a. as far as i know is that its just a smaller capacity.. As you know with forced induction it is well forced thro plenum.. As mines n/a you dont get that. So the trick is to have a long intake piping about 40 to 50cm is perfect. what this does is increases air speed.. If you dont do this you will lose power down low. Also having a ram air style intake helps and the length give the air a nice run up before hitting the plenum..

Im thinking ITBS would prob be better not sure.. but it was just easier for us to go a plenum..
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Re: Trav's N/A Bf xr6

Postby Trav199 » February 3rd, 2011, 10:06 am

So i dropped my car off this morning and got a few things sorted.. Air box will be made up and there was a typhoon there that had a blown motor due to hitting rev limiter and destroyed the oil pump gears.. So I got them to order me a billet oil pump and cover.. Diff gears and kaaz centre there waiting to be assembled.. So pretty keen to get bak from nz!! Also looking at making a cOver for battery. Also waiting on alloy overflow bottle..
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Re: Trav's N/A Bf xr6

Postby burnt turtle » February 3rd, 2011, 11:22 am

interesting stuff about the intake, id expect to loose a fair bit of torque considering the swirl effect is being produced by the standard intake manifold. in saying that if its power figure i guess a free flowing straight in intake would make sense.
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Re: Trav's N/A Bf xr6

Postby Trav199 » February 3rd, 2011, 12:29 pm

Yer there is a torque loss using the plenum but that can be regained by the porting atomic do. Creates a swirl effect. If bolted onto a standard motor there would be a loss in torque but since I done cams comp and that wouldn't have noticed a loss of torque. Plenum helps for top end power
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Re: Trav's N/A Bf xr6

Postby Dansedgli » February 3rd, 2011, 12:42 pm

Would this be faster or slower than an xr6t with 330rwhp?

My car makes about that.
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Postby Dumpsta » February 3rd, 2011, 1:26 pm

It'd certainly be interesting...
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Re: Trav's N/A Bf xr6

Postby Trav199 » February 3rd, 2011, 2:52 pm

Well in theory it should be quicker no turbo lag and so on.. Went for a spin in a mate xr6t ute with Cooler kit and cat back exhaust and mine felt alot stronger in 3rd.. But yer not real sure mate. Depends to on what diff gears also
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Re: Trav's N/A Bf xr6

Postby EFFalcon » February 3rd, 2011, 3:00 pm

until it hits the 400m it doesn't really matter :D

it may have less lag, but a turbo will typically have more mid range torque, and given you're looking at a decent stall and high gears, an equivilant turbo would likely leave the line on boost anyway :P

but either way, its good to see someone pushing the N/A envelope, theres something satisfying about beating a Turbo 6 or V8 with an N/A 6.
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Postby Trav199 » February 3rd, 2011, 4:48 pm

Yer that's true.. Im going to try and get to track on 18th.. Will be a few limitations tho.. Wont be able to stall it up or hold it flat in first.. Just wanting to see mph
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