The Ev-olution continues - more lol's within

Post by **needfordspeed** » April 20th, 2011, 3:09 pm

Bugger that! I would cry lol

someLS1 · Post by **someLS1** » April 20th, 2011, 3:22 pm

private9 wrote:
needfordspeed wrote:^^ Haha that's shit, I got 500 KM to my last tank, and only went on the freeway for around 60km of that, rest was around town, my tank is 7L bigger though, but I got a tune now and it's just hit halfway on the fuel gauge and i've done just over 300kms....

You silly V8 AU owners, should have got a LS1
lol, mine averages 26-27l/100km and it's not even fast That's driving normally, but only short trip stuff - so it's to be expected.

yours is cammed i bet? my cammed one does the same lol thats why i never drive it... i got a record high of 450 outta my ls1 wags... i cant compete with your economy gilly im a little jealous must be the extra weight and auto who knows lol

I used to get close to 500 outta my calais before i ruined it with a cam...

V8s use petrol... i thought this was generally common knowledge??

NUT347 · Post by **NUT347** » April 20th, 2011, 3:27 pm

Lol my BA when it was tuned got 500km combined, untuned it gets the same! Lol.

ClassicAU · Post by **ClassicAU** » April 20th, 2011, 4:06 pm

Well my current economy is 400kms to a tank with roughly 80% back roads to and from work, and a touch on the freeway. I haven't taken it ona huge trip yet, so don't know what it would get on the open road. The furthest I have gone so far is 280kms on half a tank on the freeway.
I knew it was going to be bad, but I didn't think it would be this terrible! I mean, I was getting 500kms a tank around town out of the grandpa EL! Ah well, I'll just chuck a big exhaust on it and enjoy the sound, and try not to think about premuim being $2 a litre!!

private9 · Post by **private9** » April 20th, 2011, 4:25 pm

ClassicAU wrote:Well my current economy is 400kms to a tank with roughly 80% back roads to and from work, and a touch on the freeway. I haven't taken it ona huge trip yet, so don't know what it would get on the open road. The furthest I have gone so far is 280kms on half a tank on the freeway.
I knew it was going to be bad, but I didn't think it would be this terrible! I mean, I was getting 500kms a tank around town out of the grandpa EL! Ah well, I'll just chuck a big exhaust on it and enjoy the sound, and try not to think about premuim being $2 a litre!!

So you're getting 15-16l per 100km out of a 10 year old V8 and crying about it?

someLS1 wrote:
private9 wrote:
needfordspeed wrote:^^ Haha that's shit, I got 500 KM to my last tank, and only went on the freeway for around 60km of that, rest was around town, my tank is 7L bigger though, but I got a tune now and it's just hit halfway on the fuel gauge and i've done just over 300kms....

You silly V8 AU owners, should have got a LS1
lol, mine averages 26-27l/100km and it's not even fast That's driving normally, but only short trip stuff - so it's to be expected.
yours is cammed i bet? my cammed one does the same lol thats why i never drive it... i got a record high of 450 outta my ls1 wags... i cant compete with your economy gilly im a little jealous must be the extra weight and auto who knows lol

I used to get close to 500 outta my calais before i ruined it with a cam...

V8s use petrol... i thought this was generally common knowledge??

Yeah Max, cammed. 450 is sick, my bolt on/tune only VX R8 would do 18-20l avg, but again all stop start, so I thought that was pretty reasonable.

Post by **Sunboost** » April 20th, 2011, 4:32 pm

None of the B-Series I had returned less than 450km a tank, and I was stoked with them. Anyone who knows where I live would know that my fuel economy would suffer 1-2L /100km just because of my location, so 450 was pretty good. It's hard to gauge whether fuel economy is decent without taking in to account 10 billion factors; how you drive, where you live, what you use the car for (peak hour commute on 60km/h roads, off peak commute on highways) and all that kind of shit.

Having said that, Gill you don't go anywhere in peak hour because you're never awake, and you're one turn off main roads with speeds of 70-80 clicks an hour, and your work and uni is a 20 min drive each way pretty much only on Cbury Road. So no wonder you're going to get immaculate figures.

I got 290 kays in the VY R8. Fucking balls.

ClassicAU · Post by **ClassicAU** » April 20th, 2011, 5:16 pm

LOL, gees, I feel better already!! I never knew how bad V8 economy was, but going by the overwhelming response, I am not doing so bad! I guess the only real way I am going to get better economy is to lose two cylinders. Appreciate the input all.

Damn Sunny, that is hella bad bloke! I though the VE I had was terrible, getting 350kms to a 75L tank, but I think you win!

Post by **Sunboost** » April 20th, 2011, 5:19 pm

ClassicAU wrote:LOL, gees, I feel better already!! I never knew how bad V8 economy was, but going by the overwhelming response, I am not doing so bad! I guess the only real way I am going to get better economy is to lose two cylinders. Appreciate the input all.

Damn Sunny, that is hella bad bloke! I though the VE I had was terrible, getting 350kms to a 75L tank, but I think you win!

Yeah so now find another excuse to piss and moan about how you reckon the AU needs to go

Hey, everyone's thinking it, I'm just saying it lol. Makes for good reading.

galapogos01 · Post by **galapogos01** » April 20th, 2011, 5:23 pm

Get a J3 for the AU Ev

Dansedgli · Post by **Dansedgli** » April 20th, 2011, 5:34 pm

Ls1's make power. They are allowed to use lots of fuel.

ClassicAU · Post by **ClassicAU** » April 20th, 2011, 5:40 pm

You love it Sunny!! LOL

Dan's got a point, where as the AU is just medeocre at everything!

Hahaha, was waiting for you to pipe up Jase! Have you even done one of these before? I thought a flash tune was just easier, albeit much more expensive.

galapogos01 · Post by **galapogos01** » April 20th, 2011, 7:03 pm

Not enough time to read all the threads all the time

10 hour days at the day job keeping me busy...

Have done plenty of AUs. If you're already running it on Premium there should be some gains from the spark map alone. Shoot me a PM if you want to sort something out.

bentls · Post by **bentls** » April 20th, 2011, 7:23 pm

ev. stop fucking complaining.
you're a fuckin miserable **** aye

maybe you should get twitter

oh and thank **** i dont have you on facebook

nstg8a · Post by **nstg8a** » April 20th, 2011, 9:06 pm

put it on gas...

wicksy · Post by **wicksy** » April 20th, 2011, 9:20 pm

Sell it and buy a prirus or something your too much off a pussy to own a v8

Parfrey · Post by **Parfrey** » April 21st, 2011, 12:40 am

Ev every car will have its downfalls.. you need to learn to live with them! + Harden the **** up! Lol.

Have you tried adjusting your driving style for a tank of fuel? My old man has an AU xr8 ute 185kw, driving it to work and back everyday (mixed driving) it gets 13l per 100. He doesn't thrash it like i would but he's not an old grandpa driver either!

Turbo's will get good economy, mine will get 600odd on the freeway but if i did a tank driving how i like to i bet i could do it in 300km.
Forget about economy and boost it already..

ClassicAU · Post by **ClassicAU** » April 21st, 2011, 7:45 am

Haters always gunna hate!

You know what, I did actually think about gas at one point, but would only go a good system like SVI or something, and they are hella expensive. I still kinda regret never going to look at that BA Ghia 3V I found before this thing that had SVI already installed. Would have been a decent car still.

I do try tro drive it nicely, but can never seem to keep it up for a whole tank for some reason.

You know what, if I can manage to do it properly this time and get a tune from someone who actually gives a fvck, I might get better economy with boost!

Let me sort out the exhaust first and freshen up the motor Jase, and then I may just hit you up. Considering how awesome of a job you did with the tune in the grandpa EL, how could I not!

BBQBurner · Post by **BBQBurner** » April 21st, 2011, 11:23 am

I email harrop and got this reply

Good morning Anthony

Thank you for your interest in Harrop products
We do currently have the true trac in stock to suit your AU falcon, the price of that unit is $1,540 inc GST.
Freight is not included in the price although is normally $40 extra for Australia wide.
If you have any more questions or would like to place an order feel free to contact our sales team.
Regards

Julian Patane | Customer Service Coordinator
Harrop Engineering Australia Pty. Ltd.
96 Bell Street, Preston, Melbourne, Victoria, 3072, Australia
t: +61 3 9474 0900 | f: +61 3 9474 0999
e: julian.patane@harrop.com.au | w: http://www.harrop.com.au" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

-----Original Message-----
From: Anthony Barrett [mailto:anthonysbarrett@iprimus.com.au]
Sent: Monday, 7 March 2011 11:50 PM
To: Sales
Subject: true trac

Hi,
I'm looking at upgrading the open diff in a IRS AU falcon with a true
trac center.
What price would i be looking at?

Regards, Anthony

So how much is a kaaz?

ClassicAU · Post by **ClassicAU** » April 21st, 2011, 11:46 am

Nice work Anthony! I got my KAAZ for $1250 I think it was, so not much difference really. I guess it depends where you go. I looked at the Harrop unit as well, but after doing some reading around, found that they are more prone to failure than a KAAZ unit. Although apparently they are smoother in their operation. To be honest though, I hardly notice the KAAZ anymore.

Post by **Sunboost** » April 25th, 2011, 12:02 am

Gill's LS1 got 766km on a Melb -> Adelaide trip this weekend. Average sitting on 8L/100km both ways. This new found love of Holdens keeps delivering.

xr6berto · Post by **xr6berto** » April 25th, 2011, 1:21 am

Sundeep wrote:Gill's LS1 got 766km on a Melb -> Adelaide trip this weekend. Average sitting on 8L/100km both ways. This new found love of Holdens keeps delivering.

holdens keep delivering

Sundeep wrote:I got 290 kays in the VY R8. Fucking balls.

private9 · Post by **private9** » April 25th, 2011, 10:30 am

Sundeep wrote:Gill's LS1 got 766km on a Melb -> Adelaide trip this weekend. Average sitting on 8L/100km both ways. This new found love of Holdens keeps delivering.

Lol, that's not far off my VE pov pack wags - gotta love that!

No more fuel economy speak though, Ev might

On a serious note Ev, how you finding the Kaaz now? Quietened up?

Post by **EFFalcon** » April 25th, 2011, 11:02 am

how bigs the tank in the VT?
8L/100 to get 766km's suggests like 95litres?

Post by **Sunboost** » April 25th, 2011, 12:15 pm

Nah more like 60 something litres.. how'd you calculate that lol?

Dansedgli · Post by **Dansedgli** » April 25th, 2011, 12:19 pm

766kms divided by 8kms = 95.75 kms per km. lol

766kms divided by 100kms * 8 litres = 61.28 litres.

Troutman · Post by **Troutman** » April 25th, 2011, 12:56 pm

I would agree with the consensus here, and sometimes have a tough time explaining to the uninitiated that these cars get excellent economy on the highway, yet terrible in the city.

Newton's first law of motion states that an object travelling at speed will remain at the same speed unless acted upon by an external force. This means that weight is almost completely a non-issue on the highway, in fact if anything it takes decent brakes to slow the car down from that speed. So all you've got is an engine basically idling (around 1500 rpm on the 4 speed VT and the WM), a bit of rolling resistence from the tyres, some wind resistence and that's it.

In city running it's the exact opposite. Constantly shifting nearly 2 tonnes from rest then accelerating to speed using 5 or 6L motors is going to take its toll to say the least. I avoid city driving for this reason as it gets ridiculous, and would rather use PT for those commutes than drive a Prius around all day. Probably cheaper, too.

I also suggest learning driving techniques to get the most from the vehicle. This is a whole topic in itself but the main thing is to minimise stopping. For example, if you know a traffic light ahead will hold you up then ease off the throttle, even hundreds of metres back, and it may be green by the time you get there. This avoids the dreaded 50 L/100km (or whatever) during initial acceleration.

ClassicAU · Post by **ClassicAU** » April 25th, 2011, 4:33 pm

Nice work on the economy Sunny/Gill. I would be wrapped if I got around the same in my XR8. The Classic I6 managed 880kms to a tank up to Sydney though, that was epic!
My XR8 sits at 2200rpm at 100kms/h in fifth with the cruise on, so if I could get more than 750kms on a long trip like that it would be great! Excellent write up Troutman, well put! I am over worrying about the economy now anyway.
The KAAZ is running great now Justin, almost un-noticeable!! Very happy with the decision. Dunno if its just me, but I recon its made the car easier to do stupid shit in too! Much more predicatble even than a stock LSD.

Anyway, gave the thing a wash after god knows how long, so of course had to document it!

Also took the wing off just for shits, what do we all think?

EF ECTIV · Post by **EF ECTIV** » April 25th, 2011, 5:09 pm

AU needs rear spoiler... looks too bare without it.... Good to here the KAAZ was a worthwhile investment... Like I said before you bought
it, I barely notice it anymore....

nstg8a · Post by **nstg8a** » April 25th, 2011, 5:33 pm

au's need the boot spoiler to square off the round droopy ass...

private9 · Post by **private9** » April 25th, 2011, 6:49 pm

Good to hear that it's quietened down - mine is silent and by far the best money I've ever spent on a car. Makes the car so much more predictable than the std LSD!

InfernalTyrant · Post by **InfernalTyrant** » April 25th, 2011, 7:52 pm

nstg8a wrote:au's need the boot spoiler to square off the round droopy ass...

Definitely agree with this.

Post by **TUFED6** » April 25th, 2011, 9:41 pm

Agree with Troutman, its all about how you drive it.

Do all of this then report back-

Short shift every gear and let the torque pull the thing around
Coast up to every red light, dont brake just lift
Never give it more than 50% throttle off the lights
Cruise everywhere, never race anyone or get too close to anyone so you dont have to brake or accelerate much
Keep it serviced regularly
Keep all the tyre pressures 40+psi

Most of the time thats how I drive and I always get excellent economy. Other times I just frash the **** cos I'm an impatient bastard

ClassicAU · Post by **ClassicAU** » April 25th, 2011, 10:22 pm

Ok, ok, so the wing stays!! To be honest, I kinda liked how different it looked, but anyway. I wish I could find the same spoiler I had on my AUII Futura Classic, that was mint!

Excellent advice from Tufed6 there too! Just one quick one for you though mate. When you say coast up to the lights and lift, should I stay in what ever gear I am in, down shift or go straight to neutral? I normally just take it out of gear and use the brakes.

InfernalTyrant · Post by **InfernalTyrant** » April 25th, 2011, 11:12 pm

ClassicAU wrote:To be honest, I kinda liked how different it looked, but anyway.

If you like it, why care what others think?

Parfrey · Post by **Parfrey** » April 26th, 2011, 12:01 am

Just for reference Ev, i just went on a ~700km trip, got 10.0L per hundred and showed a BF XR8 + a VX clubby a thing or 2 on the way

You can't beat turbo's for economy and performance!

ClassicAU · Post by **ClassicAU** » April 26th, 2011, 12:13 am

I don't care what other people think. In fact, I was going to leave it off, but only put it back because the wing looks better covering the holes in the boot lid than red race tape!

I recon if I come across a standard red lid I'll grab it.

As for the turbo economy, I'm sure strapping a blower to this bastard will help it almost in the same way!

t1MMy · Post by **t1MMy** » April 26th, 2011, 12:20 am

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EBOOST · Post by **EBOOST** » April 26th, 2011, 10:21 am

maybe try doing oxy sensors and shit.
my old au got 680km out of a tank to albury and back and we went for a decent spirited drive up the moutains there to over look some lake.
my brother gets 600km out of most tanks in his au3 xr8 and on the same drive he got 720km and it said he still had 90km left.
cheers josh.

Post by **EFFalcon** » April 26th, 2011, 1:44 pm

Dansedgli wrote:766kms divided by 8kms = 95.75 kms per km. lol

766kms divided by 100kms * 8 litres = 61.28 litres.

me = fail.

this is why i'm not an accountant

justa6 · Post by **justa6** » April 26th, 2011, 6:25 pm

i don't mind no wing, but this is what every au ass end should look like.