Rollin wrote:1: Rear park assist still lets you hit shit.
2: Handbrake lever can catch your index finger if you aren't careful when taking the handbrake off (sharp edges on some cars make it possible to draw blood).
3: Rear vision is woefull. It's possible to hide a 12yo child below the bootline on these cars, it's fuct up.
4: A-pillars are monsterous, meaning roundabouts and bends in the road are taken while sawing your head back and forth to try and see round it.
5: Lane changing is an excersise in faith due to lack of rear vision.
6: Most of them feel very underdamped.
7: Kids under the age of about 12 cannot see out of the rear windows because of the high waistline - must make car trips fun.
8: BLOODY BEEPING. Every time you get in one of the kents the cluster beeps at you, it gets exceedingly irritating.
9: Headlights have the option of "auto, parkers, headlights" and when set to auto they pretty much come on all the time. If I want my headlights on, I'll bloody put them on, thank you very much!
10: Squirters for the wiper blades are on the 'bottom' of the blade, meaning the first wipe 'up' the screen is completely dry - geat for scratching the crap out of the screen if you've just been splashed with some mud or have dust on the screen.
11: Accelerators don't "feel" right - fly by wire is the crappest thing ever (and that goes for pretty much every car fitted with it).
12: Wheel arches are stupidly big - even 20s look small on a VE, it's retarded! Even if you lower them so the belly is scraping the deck, they look like they sit at the normal height of a factory car, and should be lowered a bit more - I keenly await the first VE I see tucking tyre/rim they'd have to be 24s or something.
13: And while I'm on the subject of wheels, the wheel nut torque spec for a VE (all of them) is 175Nm. I'd reckon 60% of the driving population of australia would have trouble getting the nuts off, let alone struggling with the weight of the oversized wheels while removing and fitting the spare (just FYI, a rear wheel on a clubby weighs in at 34kg - thats kalf of what I weigh!!!)
That's just a few things I can think of off the top of my head, things that 'normal' people would notice during ownership. Much more to do with the fundamental design failures of the car, than just comparing how much gofasts they have.
I'd rather drive a slightly slower car that works well, is designed well, and feels 'right' to drive than a quicker one that has some unforgivable flaws. (I read a wheels article on Orion the other day, looks just like a VE but with extra crapness - all the flaws of the VE, plus no doubt they will invent some new ones)
I could give a shitlist of recalls current on them atm, and common problems, and go on and on about the CAN-BUS system they use, and the amount of programming conflicts etc that they suffer from, and the stupid overly complicated system they use to control the charge rate of the alternator (get this, just to make the alternator do its job on a VE, you need BOTH the engine ECU and the body control module - yep, two bits of wire from the alternator to battery have been replaced with a couple of modules worth about 2 grand, a complicated system of communications between the two, and several hundred/thousand hours of testing and programming to get it right, which they didn't anyway, hence the BCM reprogramming recall they started because 11tybillion VEs kept getting flat batteries!!)
That's perfect. That's the type of shit I was after. Man, glad I haven't driven one... well, I'd probably still try a GTS, I think a drive in one of those could be acceptable LOL.
... anyway i reckon vn's have 2 be the worst!! i farkin hate the kents!!!! lol
