Big Brake kits etc. It's getting boring I know...

OED666 · Post by **OED666** » July 22nd, 2009, 4:15 pm

i'm not going AU diff, so i'm wanting my wheels so sit in further on the front. :S :S

67rce · Post by **67rce** » July 22nd, 2009, 5:14 pm

It will be a tight fit, i had a look at the upright on my AU with the factory 17 x 8's cme even that will be a tight squeeze to fit 9" Drifteks on there, I'll put up a pic later to show how much clearance the AU has stock

Rollin · Post by **Rollin** » July 22nd, 2009, 5:36 pm

67rce - can you borrow a 9" driftek over a weekend or something to check fitment? That would be the best option.

nothin suss - I'm currently working on a set of lower control arms which would enable fitment of AU uprights and upper arms, which would give better castor angles, Au offset and access to any AU/FG brakes you want, from stock 2 piston 300mm rotor to 6 piston GT brakes

I built a LHS dummy arm last weekend, I hope to build a RHS one this weekend and fit them to the car to see what happens with suspension angles etc...

e series falcon · Post by **e series falcon** » July 22nd, 2009, 5:40 pm

i may be keen dan if they work

Craney · Post by **Craney** » August 24th, 2009, 1:38 am

I know this is a bit late for the OP but for anyone else looking at getting UPC's, I have had the +20's on my EL for 8 months now with no complaints. I've had Territory rims on the front to clear the rotors and there is just enough room by the uprights to get away with it with 225/45/17s. I'm now looking at a set of Kosei rims in 17 x 8 front and 17 x 9 rear. As these are +45's I'm going to need about 13mm spacers front (I may go a touch wider to fill the guards a bit better) and 48mm spacers rear to fit em in nice. Snake racing does custom sizes for the fourbe market so they should keep the wheels on my mont.

The +28 UPC's came out a few months after I bought mine but I'm glad I got what what I did. Gives a little room to try different widths/backspaces etc. The only thing I want to do my brakes now is get a different master cylinder. The extra volume of the PBR caliper (OEM VE) results in a little extra pedal travel which you get used to but I do miss a nice hard pedal.

Cheers

BROCKYB8 · Post by **BROCKYB8** » August 26th, 2009, 1:51 pm

Ok ive got some questions that i definatly need to ask.
Im not the smartest when it comes to brake side that is all

Ok ive got the xf ( fairmont ghia) which has disc all round .
Ive just recently put a ea diff in it However im unsure of the size difference (If any).
Im lookign at upgrading the brakes but was wondering firstly what to suggest and what are some good ways of sttopping the

Note - It had standard disc . And so did the ea diff

OED666 · Post by **OED666** » August 26th, 2009, 2:10 pm

the XF rotor on the rear is vented, but the same diameter rotor on the rear.

I mucked around at the wreckers once with the idea of putting XF vented calipers on my car, and I reckon it will fit. may need to mix and match brackets.

BROCKYB8 · Post by **BROCKYB8** » August 26th, 2009, 3:29 pm

Ok my car being turbo now is it worth upgrading the brakes all round tho?
As i said they are all standard brake disc and pads all over and are prob not good enought

Rollin · Post by **Rollin** » August 26th, 2009, 4:37 pm

There are some good easy upgrades for X series falcons, can't think of the brands off the top of my head but they shouldn't be hard to find. I'm sure I've seen them advertised in Street Machine etc.

67rce · Post by **67rce** » August 26th, 2009, 5:51 pm

RRS do an XD kit IIRC

BROCKYB8 · Post by **BROCKYB8** » August 26th, 2009, 11:46 pm

If you can pm me some links. I truly dont have any idea about brakes

Rollin · Post by **Rollin** » March 27th, 2010, 1:00 am

Soooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

It's been a bloody long time and it will be a long time more, but after making a really crap looking hybrid ED/AU lower control arm in the garage about a year ago I've had it measured up and turned into a file a CNC machine can use, at the bargain cost of ~ $1200

I did take the arm to a suspension fabricator dude initially and he had it for around 6 months and did nothing to it. What a fuckhead.

Anyway, I've sent the file to a dude I know with a CNC machine and he's (hopefully sometime this century) going to give me a quote to have one made (so I can trial fit it to one side of the car and make sure I have my measurements correct) before getting a quote for a matched set.

At this point I'm unsure on if it will be cheaper to have them all made from billet or if I need to get the file modified to include casting tolerances and then cast from a mould then machined.

It's a waiting game once again.....Bloody hell I hope I have it right!

LUXO_8 · Post by **LUXO_8** » March 27th, 2010, 7:22 am

That's good to hear. Did he give any indication as to when he might be able to give it a run on his cnc?

Rollin · Post by **Rollin** » March 27th, 2010, 12:39 pm

Just got an email back, no joy. He's too busy. What a poo head.

Nikk O'lass · Post by **Nikk O'lass** » March 27th, 2010, 12:48 pm

Make a dummy one out of wood? lol..just don't drive on it. That would be usefull for correcting the measurements before spending on getting the proper CNC thing done.

Rollin · Post by **Rollin** » March 27th, 2010, 2:02 pm

I made a dummy one out of an e-series and an au arm that I chopped up and welded together. It seemed to be the right dimensions but now that I've had it drawn I want a copy made from the drawing to make sure it's spot on.

Rollin · Post by **Rollin** » March 28th, 2010, 1:32 pm

So nobody cares any more?

Nikk O'lass · Post by **Nikk O'lass** » March 28th, 2010, 1:38 pm

It would be somthing to look foward too, Hopefully it will mean we can get some flush wheel fitment! Fat JDM style!

LUXO_8 · Post by **LUXO_8** » March 28th, 2010, 1:39 pm

im keen as you know

Post by **EFFalcon** » March 28th, 2010, 1:55 pm

ask Glenneaux if he knows any options, he works with CNC gear at his work, might have a contact.

vegabass · Post by **vegabass** » March 28th, 2010, 3:03 pm

Have you offered head? you might get further with that.

bigdell · Post by **bigdell** » March 28th, 2010, 3:04 pm

I'm always keen.

Nikk O'lass · Post by **Nikk O'lass** » March 28th, 2010, 3:25 pm

vegabass wrote:Have you offered head? you might get further with that.

bigdell wrote:I'm always keen

bigdell · Post by **bigdell** » March 28th, 2010, 3:31 pm

just got ninjaed like a motherfucker.

Malakai · Post by **Malakai** » March 28th, 2010, 5:17 pm

I found a place that is making pretty much exactly what you are Dan, they are a lot further along but. It will be interesting to what you come up with though and the differences between the two.

LUXO_8 · Post by **LUXO_8** » March 28th, 2010, 5:19 pm

got a link?

Malakai · Post by **Malakai** » March 28th, 2010, 5:30 pm

No link just a place I talked to while phoning around, I'm trying to remember the name of the place actually. Got drawn into a long conversation about the topic once I mentioned what Dan was doing. I do remember it was a machine shop that I phoned about custom input shafts though.

Rollin · Post by **Rollin** » March 28th, 2010, 10:34 pm

I'll be fucking pissed if these dudes get it done before me!! Stealing my fucking idea! How far along are they? Have they got a set made yet? Are they fitted to a car? Pics?
Name?

galapogos01 · Post by **galapogos01** » November 14th, 2012, 10:09 am

I have a brake related question so I am bumping this thread rather than creating a new one.

Everyone says the EL GT brake setups keep the same offset as e-series. Is this true? The hub depth ("height") on an EL GT rotor is a lot smaller than an E-Series rotor. I know the EL GT rotor is thicker, but its not that much thicker...

EL GT:

E-Series:

Am I missing something?

nothin suss · Post by **nothin suss** » November 14th, 2012, 10:14 am

The uprights were unique to ELGT/FBT yeah?

galapogos01 · Post by **galapogos01** » November 14th, 2012, 10:38 am

Yes they were -- but there is no difference in offset in the uprights:

From what I can tell the EL GT has less offset, but made up the difference with a wider front wheel to end up with the same track.

apoc · Post by **apoc** » November 14th, 2012, 10:54 am

I think they'd be similar offset. The disc face seems to sit much closer to the upright on the EA-EL stock brakes! Ive mashed my finger in there more than a few times

EDIT: Best pic I could find.

DJV8T5 · Post by **DJV8T5** » November 14th, 2012, 11:07 am

With everyone saying 17" Territory steelies fit over UPC 330mm kit, has anyone got pics? I would like to see the wheels over the kit.

galapogos01 · Post by **galapogos01** » November 14th, 2012, 11:11 am

apoc wrote:I think they'd be similar offset. The disc face seems to sit much closer to the upright on the EA-EL stock brakes! Ive mashed my finger in there more than a few times

EDIT: Best pic I could find.

You make a good point. I didn't factor that in.

Once I get a rotor I will take some measurements.

Rollin · Post by **Rollin** » November 14th, 2012, 11:13 am

I'm 99% sure the offset is the same, the difference is the position of the friction surface.

Stock E-series calipers are much closer to the centerline of the car than the GT ones.

galapogos01 · Post by **galapogos01** » November 14th, 2012, 11:39 am

Cheers for the replies. I was missing something!

sikwags_218 · Post by **sikwags_218** » November 15th, 2012, 6:38 am

With what nothing suss said didnt a bloke with the red ef turbo do that? Have a look at the pics in his build thread

samftr · Post by **samftr** » November 15th, 2012, 7:55 am

Aren't the front wheels slightly different offset to the rear. Hence the wheel options?

Craney · Post by **Craney** » June 10th, 2015, 12:24 am

DJV8T5 wrote:With everyone saying 17" Territory steelies fit over UPC 330mm kit, has anyone got pics? I would like to see the wheels over the kit.

Sorry its so late, Lol