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Re: My Chilli EL XR6 - 19" GTP's + Tickford Kit

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my fuel probs are back...
so this is what i filled up about 5 days ago

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reset odometre and its showing that ive done 273k's atm, tank was almost empty

and this is what my trip read out is...

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and it took another 62L of petrol..

i dont even thrash the thing and it still hates me lol, this sucks considering my dads v8 is getting 15L/100k to a tank and hes throttle happy! might add it developed a lumpier idle today for some reason.. might just end up giving it to a mechanic and let it be there problem
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God damn that's a lot of fuel!!

Is it cammed? What do the plugs look like? You haven't done something like put AU injectors in it?
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BLKPHN wrote:God damn that's a lot of fuel!!

Is it cammed? What do the plugs look like? You haven't done something like put AU injectors in it?
its wasiting 26L/100km now..

no camm, ill post a picture of the plugs if you want? they look pretty black... i put au injectors in recently but ive had this problem long before that
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Re: My Chilli EL XR6 - 19" GTP's + Tickford Kit

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Could a vac leak be the problem? I had a split hose on my ED I replaced it and the fuel economy has improved to something half reasonable..
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Id say au injectors won't help without a tune.
But check for leaks defiantly. Make sure reg isn't leaking fuel into the inlet.


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XHBrad wrote:Could a vac leak be the problem? I had a split hose on my ED I replaced it and the fuel economy has improved to something half reasonable..
hey i checked and followed pretty much all the lines around the intake and i couldnt find anything! car is at mechanics now so ill post up the findings once they are done with it
SnipeZ wrote:Id say au injectors won't help without a tune.
But check for leaks defiantly. Make sure reg isn't leaking fuel into the inlet.


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the injectors were tested before fitted, they spray good and i also used some carbi cleaner on them, fuel reg was the only thing i didnt touch tbh
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Yeah. They can spray fine and such but au injectors are bigger then ef el and when opened can spray more fuel into the cylinder richening it up a lot. Also making it use a shit load more fuel.
Best way to run injectors is to get them tuned in by removing fuel from the table


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heres pic's of the spark plugs
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randomly took this photo, turned out pretty sick. gonna try to get a better shot simular to this

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bit of an update... got the car back from the mechanics today, and after looking at the engine this is what they came up with. the timing was off, the intake manifold gasket is gone and had 2 bolts missing, and the threads that the bolts run along are gone.. apparently you cant notice it when the car is idling but once your driving it would be losing a fark ton of air which sounds good enough.

now i have 2 things i can do, slap a new low km motor in thats sitting in my back yard or i can pay to just have this fixed. decisions....
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after everything it puts me through photos like these make me happy :)

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tqure wrote:bit of an update... got the car back from the mechanics today, and after looking at the engine this is what they came up with. the timing was off, the intake manifold gasket is gone and had 2 bolts missing, and the threads that the
bolts run along are gone.. apparently you
cant notice it when the car is idling but once your driving it would be losing a fark ton of air which sounds good enough.

now i have 2 things i can do, slap a new low km motor in thats sitting in my back yard or i can pay to just have this fixed. decisions....
Sound like you were fed a load of shit.
Best thing you could do is find a boosted member that will helicoil two bolt holes and replace the inlet gasket for a box of beer.
Then start looking for the problem like a partially blocked cat or shagged 02 sensor.
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im with taxi, id replace the 02 sensor and check the cat out. they will definitely impact your fuel economy
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TAXI wrote:Sound like you were fed a load of shit.
Best thing you could do is find a boosted member that will helicoil two bolt holes and replace the inlet gasket for a box of beer.
Then start looking for the problem like a partially blocked cat or shagged 02 sensor.
i hope not cause ive ran out of things to do about it, replaced pretty much all the sensors and put in a full exhaust. had it scanned on computer, had the head tested etc its gotten to the point that i pretty much wanna rip the motor out. lucky to give me 280km from a tank
wolfblass wrote:im with taxi, id replace the 02 sensor and check the cat out. they will definitely impact your fuel economy
tried em man, didnt make a difference at all
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decided to give it a nice clean today as the weather was mint
changed a couple of things last week, it now has no tow bar and a genuine cover, decided to put the bigger shark fin spoiler on and also a custom north geelong 2.5" catback with 3" down pipe exhaust tip. Pretty happy with it :)

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monday night cruises, 2 is better then one

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most people hate them, but i love car bras :)

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tqure wrote:monday night cruises, 2 is better then one

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i wonder whos car that is :)
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A vacuum leak and timing being out doesn't sound like a load of shit but your options of how to fix it were a bit drastic.
if you cant find someone to helicoil thethreaded bolts just replace the gasket and fix the timing. If the 2 missing bolts are on 2 different cylinders then there won't be an issue.
I'd be keen to know how the mechanic knew the gasket is fucked without taking the bbm off unless its painfully obvious.
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iWoble wrote:i wonder whos car that is :)
finally on here :P

misk wrote:A vacuum leak and timing being out doesn't sound like a load of shit but your options of how to fix it were a bit drastic.
if you cant find someone to helicoil thethreaded bolts just replace the gasket and fix the timing. If the 2 missing bolts are on 2 different cylinders then there won't be an issue.
I'd be keen to know how the mechanic knew the gasket is fucked without taking the bbm off unless its painfully obvious.
ecu is the only thing i havent touched so thats next until i do something about the intake yeah the motor will be staying haha
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misk wrote:A vacuum leak and timing being out doesn't sound like a load of shit but your options of how to fix it were a bit drastic.
if you cant find someone to helicoil thethreaded bolts just replace the gasket and fix the timing. If the 2 missing bolts are on 2 different cylinders then there won't be an issue.
I'd be keen to know how the mechanic knew the gasket is fucked without taking the bbm off unless its painfully obvious.
Most times you can hear the inlet gasket. Also spraying carby cleaner along the join will generally show a leak.


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Good meeting you man, looks and sounds absolutely beautiful, one of the nicest ELs ive seen :) :grin:
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khodeer wrote:Good meeting you man, looks and sounds absolutely beautiful, one of the nicest ELs ive seen :) :grin:
thanks alot man shes getting there slowly slowly :)
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picked up these today, diamond visions 5000k, heard good reviews and thought why not. only set me back $50. will post up before and after pictures later :)

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here is the stock bulb compared to the diamond visions. they look much better but didnt improve visibility too much. gonna adjust them tonight see how i go :)

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gave it a clean after putting the angel eyes on

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what they look like at night

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i like :good:
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Angel eyes look so much better on EL XRs than any other IMO.. They just look so, right..
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XHBrad wrote:Angel eyes look so much better on EL XRs than any other IMO.. They just look so, right..
yeah they look pretty sweet, they turned it good as :)
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looks nice mate
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Did you end up sorting your fuel probs?
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LUVSIT wrote:looks nice mate
thanks man :)
misk wrote:Did you end up sorting your fuel probs?
nah gave up on it, still averages around 20L/100km even though ive been on highway roads 70% of the time. it gets a little over 300km a tank, just try not to drive it around as much
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Lol fuvk.
Does it run cold?
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misk wrote:Lol fuvk.
Does it run cold?
yep haha
nah it runs normal, usually sits around m sometimes a

im thinking about throwing it on the dyno see if it comes up with anything, thoughts? :confused:
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Would speed up diagnosis.

I got Crystal Visions which are the one down. Slightly less white, slightly more bright. Still shit in the standard EL reflectors. Hopefully the Diamonds throw better with XR projectors.

Angel eyes look good.
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spotted yourself and that heritage green xr6 today at hungry jacks in tullamarine.

get that fuel consumption looked at. getting 300km out of a tank is pretty shit, i get around 500 out of mine
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I got 300km to $40 in the xh before going to the bbm and it was running a little rich.
So something is all fucked up with yours.

Where are you at?
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Bipolar wrote:Would speed up diagnosis.

I got Crystal Visions which are the one down. Slightly less white, slightly more bright. Still shit in the standard EL reflectors. Hopefully the Diamonds throw better with XR projectors.

Angel eyes look good.
i hope so, the diamond visions arnt as bad as the stock bulbs in the xr headlights but they still dont show much of the road. e series lmao thanks mate :)
wolfblass wrote:spotted yourself and that heritage green xr6 today at hungry jacks in tullamarine.

get that fuel consumption looked at. getting 300km out of a tank is pretty shit, i get around 500 out of mine
should have came down :)

i have checked with 2 different mechanics they found nothing just that intake gasket bullshit :/
misk wrote:I got 300km to $40 in the xh before going to the bbm and it was running a little rich.
So something is all fucked up with yours.

Where are you at?
i wish my xr was that efficient, it runs fine just likes to drink alot :/
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Ahh fair enough. I would have swapped the gasket for you if you were closer
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XH ute daily - DOHC BA XR6 engine, T5, AU3 ECU with TI J3 chip, ported BBM, 3" stainless intake - 12" sub, tub liner and hard lid - mass skids and epic tyre carrying capabilities :)
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misk wrote:Ahh fair enough. I would have swapped the gasket for you if you were closer
thanks for that mate but tbh it dosent seem to be a issue, i was told by the mechanic that the bolts arnt holding and i checked them and its true but its pretty sealed! i could swap the motor but this ones a pretty clean engine. i am considering vapour injection as an alternative. i should also add i havent touched the ecu maybe it could be that but im sick of throwing money at useless bits to no avail. all the sensors, injectors, fuel pressure reg, list goes on :banghead:
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