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Re: bentls new boxcar "shazza"

Posted: May 8th, 2010, 11:21 pm
by josh_ef
if you run an au diff in an e series with e series wheels they stick out, if you run au series wheels they sit normal

Re: bentls new boxcar "shazza"

Posted: May 8th, 2010, 11:38 pm
by nstg8a
josh_ef wrote:if you run an au diff in an e series with e series wheels they stick out, if you run au series wheels they sit normal
i was thinking of my xf, i was gonna run 35mm spacers so my rims filled my guards properly. i wonder if x series have bigger guards then e series...

sorry for the thread hijack bentls

Re: bentls new boxcar "shazza"

Posted: May 22nd, 2010, 5:06 pm
by bentls
ummm, new diff went in last week 3.08 peg leg, its sick.... in a bad way :(
done a few lil things here n there not much left before i get my semi dodgey semi legit roady haha

oh and got to love knowing someone who works at shannons :D agreed value 9500, full comp, rating 1and all mods covered in the policy for a smidge over 1k a year :D

oh and im only 22....

Re: bentls new boxcar "shazza"

Posted: May 22nd, 2010, 5:20 pm
by needfordspeed
This thing sounded sick as the other night, you need to get a LSD or some shit and make some skid vids, i'm willing to be the camera man!

Re: bentls new boxcar "shazza"

Posted: June 3rd, 2010, 8:51 pm
by bentls
193.3rwkw

lol afr was 10.9:1 by about 3 grand so it needs a tune BAD, but kinda lucky that its rich not lean, and thats on 4psi, and like no prep work or anything, old plugs old oil, it got wheelspin on the dyno cos it was my first time using the dyno, and pod filter is dirtier than a 2 dollar hooker and intake pipe is pretty shit bendy pipe, so now ive got my base of how much power the car had when i got it, ill do a few things like clean pod redo some shit, get a proper tune and see what power i can make on 4psi

and no that isnt me making up excuses for the low power that just me explaining what the condition was in to make that power...

Re: bentls new boxcar "shazza"

Posted: June 3rd, 2010, 8:54 pm
by needfordspeed
Well....seeing as it's running rich, IMO more boost would be a good option to get it nice and stoich :D

Re: bentls new boxcar "shazza"

Posted: June 3rd, 2010, 8:56 pm
by misk
+1 for T04z on 10psi :)
will fix your ritchness well and good

Re: bentls new boxcar "shazza"

Posted: June 3rd, 2010, 9:01 pm
by bentls
10psi would barely be getting into the efficiency range on a t04z lol... :D
im all for more boost just not yet.. i don't have a daily

Re: bentls new boxcar "shazza"

Posted: June 3rd, 2010, 9:08 pm
by misk
10psi on a 5 litre isnt the same as 10psi on a 3 litre lol
plus, would leave more scope for when you want to up it to 15psi ;)

anyway, will be good to see the results once you get the tune and what not sorted.

Re: bentls new boxcar "shazza"

Posted: June 3rd, 2010, 9:19 pm
by bentls
yeah at this stage if i do end up doing more work it comes down to which way i want to go... either
motor rework (starr manifold, new tune, 10ish psi, 355, 92mm tb etc etc etc) and leave 3.08 single and the t5 and hope for the best
OR
mal wood t56 conversion AND 3.9/4.11 lsd/ spool with 31 spline axles and leave the motor / boost combo and retune it etc etc

cant afford to do both any time soon, and not going to really change much on the car any time soon other than tune and clean up etc etc until i get a daily or something as im now a 25-30min drive to work not 5mins like where i used to work

Re: bentls new boxcar "shazza"

Posted: June 3rd, 2010, 9:43 pm
by misk
funny you mention a starr manifold :D

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Re: bentls new boxcar "shazza"

Posted: June 3rd, 2010, 9:44 pm
by bentls
also for sale on vnssclub but i can get em for alot cheaper brand new than hes asking ;)

Re: bentls new boxcar "shazza"

Posted: June 4th, 2010, 12:31 am
by Rollin
Do the diff and box first, trust me, 200rwkw with a bombproof drivetrain would be shitloads more fun than 400rwkw and a drivetrain with the structural integrity of Kevin Rudds spine.

Re: bentls new boxcar "shazza"

Posted: June 4th, 2010, 7:41 am
by bentls
That's the way I'm learning towards more anyway. I'm already driving like a girl cos I'm scared it will break with it's current power haha

Re: bentls new boxcar "shazza"

Posted: June 4th, 2010, 9:00 am
by misk
fk i posted a similar reply last night but didnt go through.
with the T56 and 4.11s it will be pretty spastic to drive even on 4psi lol
you will certainly be able to thrash it more

Re: bentls new boxcar "shazza"

Posted: June 4th, 2010, 9:13 am
by ClassicAU
Hell yeah man, go driveline route first fow shiz! I made that mistake with the first AU, and it ended in me crackin it and flogging the bastard! I recon if I’d have done the KAAZ and gearbox first like I planned to, and not fell for the romance of power, I’d most likely still have the car! As has been said, it will still be mad fun with its current power and a tough driveline.

Re: bentls new boxcar "shazza"

Posted: June 4th, 2010, 12:54 pm
by travs ea-xr6
you didnt have any drive line problems did ya ev?

Re: bentls new boxcar "shazza"

Posted: June 4th, 2010, 2:56 pm
by ClassicAU
In the AU Trav? Yeah, all sorts mate!! The diff was stuffed, cos I got suckered in, as usual, and did it half arsed. I had a "brand new" standard spec LSD built, and mashed it in a year. That was even before the boost! As soon as I added the boost, the PBR XR6 spec clutch cracked it, and the single pegger I had in there didn't like it at all! The gearbox itself was ok, but then again I only had boost for like a month, so I'm sure that would have died eventually too.
So this is all stuff that is going to need to be done either way, so might as well do it once and do it right, and save yourself the pain!

Re: bentls new boxcar "shazza"

Posted: June 4th, 2010, 5:14 pm
by bentls
Taken from vnssclub
psi355 wrote:a t5 is only as strong as the goon behind the wheel

had a 355, 10psi powerdyne blower, 360rear wheel wih a t5 for 4 years no worries. Sold car minus the blower and the dude blew the box and chipped a tooth on the diff within a month

keep 28 spline axles, they are strong enough, wack in a mini spool if you want or tighten the lsd
keep the 3.08 gears with it blown it wont matter that much and will still pull hard
keep the standard manifold, with boost your forcing the air in and 10psi the starr wont make much of a difference if at all
wack in a crane 284 cam with a 355 blown this will be a nice streetable car to drive,that should scar some of your mates
there, iv'e just knocked off a few things so the budget is looking good
mate iv'e been down your path, these are just my opinion's and my expierence with blown combo's
cheers
claydo
some of that i agree with, im fairly mechanically sympathetic most of the time i drive, however i do occasionally thrash the ass out of stuff... i just wouldnt feel confident however keeping the t5 and either single banger or lsd(would wear out fairly quick id immagine) or a spool with 28 spline axles... ive been down that path, i dont know how long the axles were in it for or whatever, but the one which didnt snap was also bent so im not too keen on that... id have to go 31 splines to be able to confidently drive it...

Re: bentls new boxcar "shazza"

Posted: June 4th, 2010, 5:18 pm
by pHaT`eL
Orrrrr, give me your blower :)

Re: bentls new boxcar "shazza"

Posted: June 4th, 2010, 5:20 pm
by bentls
$8700 comes with free vn ss

Re: bentls new boxcar "shazza"

Posted: June 4th, 2010, 5:22 pm
by Steady
what id do?
fix diff, fix whatevers stopping it from actually making power, nothing else.

also 360rw what?
is he saying he got 360rwkw with a 355 and a powerdyne on 10psi?

Re: bentls new boxcar "shazza"

Posted: June 4th, 2010, 5:27 pm
by bentls
probly 360rwhp id immagine, i doubt he got 360rwkw haha

Re: bentls new boxcar

Posted: June 4th, 2010, 5:30 pm
by Steady
it must be, but if i had a blown 355 that made 268rwkw id top myself.
misk wrote:unless its a ford
lol
i never see any mild charged falcons that produce good numbers, which is a shame
id just like to quote this again too hahaha
windsor 4 life.

Re: bentls new boxcar "shazza"

Posted: June 4th, 2010, 5:37 pm
by bentls
what did yours make again jared? i cant remember and cbf finding it... did you use stock cam? what boost are you running?

Re: bentls new boxcar "shazza"

Posted: June 5th, 2010, 1:41 pm
by pHaT`eL
249 im pretty sure?

Re: bentls new boxcar "shazza"

Posted: June 6th, 2010, 6:20 pm
by Steady
249 @ 6psi and yeah stock cam, only think i touched 'inside' the motor was valvesprings.

Re: bentls new boxcar

Posted: June 6th, 2010, 8:11 pm
by josh_ef
Steady wrote:it must be, but if i had a blown 355 that made 268rwkw id top myself.
misk wrote:unless its a ford
lol
i never see any mild charged falcons that produce good numbers, which is a shame
id just like to quote this again too hahaha
windsor 4 life.

well said

get the diff built properly first, then get a 6 speed in it or a tough auto. once that is done you can crank the boost up worry free

Re: bentls new boxcar "shazza"

Posted: June 15th, 2010, 6:24 pm
by bentls
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printer at tafe stuffed up, and no the power didnt go WTF there i hit the rev limiter (6cyl tacho in it so i got nfi what revs im doing, and first time ive used a dyno before)

Re: bentls new boxcar "shazza"

Posted: June 15th, 2010, 8:14 pm
by josh_ef
lol

what tafe do ya go to?

Re: bentls new boxcar "shazza"

Posted: June 15th, 2010, 9:19 pm
by bentls
box hill

Re: bentls new boxcar "shazza"

Posted: June 16th, 2010, 8:09 am
by ClassicAU
Typical Holden, all show no go! :P Dude, thats poo, you need to fix that asap. It's less than what mine and Dan's AU I6's made with blowers! C'mon, chop chop!

Posted: June 16th, 2010, 8:30 am
by EFFalcon
4psi though... i'd like ot be making that kinda power on 4psi :P

Re: bentls new boxcar "shazza"

Posted: June 16th, 2010, 12:44 pm
by Rollin
The EB XR6 I had years back made similar power to that - 271rwhp/203rwkw on 6psi at about 4000rpm. I figured out years later that the valve springs were stuffed, so I probably could have gotten more by replacing them.

Re: bentls new boxcar "shazza"

Posted: June 16th, 2010, 12:59 pm
by ClassicAU
I think mine was making 5.5psi at the TB to make 195rwkw. I guess its just manifold restrictions then or something?

Re: bentls new boxcar "shazza"

Posted: June 16th, 2010, 5:59 pm
by bentls
as i said ev, the pod looks like its been on there since WW2, and the AFR is 11:1.

proper tune and new pod should see 220 on same boost.

Re: bentls new boxcar "shazza"

Posted: June 23rd, 2010, 10:35 pm
by bentls
the time has come....
http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/pri ... istance=25" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

if i dont get the right offer i just simply wont sell it...
i like the car, but i wouldnt mind maybe getting something newer and more comfortable... starting to get sick of using this thing every day...

plus might make some profit on this, as i havent really spent all that much on it ...YET...

Re: bentls new boxcar "shazza"

Posted: June 23rd, 2010, 10:58 pm
by misk
also to add to the above, 200rwkw from a blown V8 certainly feels faster than 200rwkw from a blown 6 lol
we're not talking about windsors here either, manual holden V8s are fkn fun to drive with a bit of power.

Re: bentls new boxcar "shazza"

Posted: June 24th, 2010, 6:18 am
by Michael (HYPOEB)
What are the 355 strokers like on these motors? Are they as gay as the 347 stroker on the 5l?

Re: bentls new boxcar "shazza"

Posted: June 24th, 2010, 6:37 am
by Steady
why is a 347 gay?