NEW FG FALCON

limited · Post by **limited** » February 17th, 2008, 4:29 pm

New falcon has been released!!!! waiting on pics to surface ASAP!!!!

EBOOST · Post by **EBOOST** » February 17th, 2008, 4:40 pm

go on fords website its full of pics.
cheers josh.

Fairmont888 · Post by **Fairmont888** » February 17th, 2008, 4:43 pm

all comp generated stuff still tho...

EDIT - car was only released to press and dealers.. so technically it is yet to be properly released, which will happen at melb motor show

limited · Post by **limited** » February 17th, 2008, 4:48 pm

cant wait for real pics to how, was checking specs,, looks like V8 is only available in XR8, but G6E turbo sounds nice...

Fairmont888 · Post by **Fairmont888** » February 17th, 2008, 4:52 pm

yeh will be good to see a proper pic of it... those comp generated ones just arent the same

will be even better being at the melbourne motor show to see its public unveiling.. im flying down for the day just to see it

lol

holmsy · Post by **holmsy** » February 17th, 2008, 4:58 pm

some nice as pics on ford.com.au
love the interior looks awsome

[Sterling] · Post by **[Sterling]** » February 17th, 2008, 5:05 pm

front end dont look all that, rear end is great, but XR5 wheels??? could have made it look touhger!

limited · Post by **limited** » February 17th, 2008, 5:06 pm

might be a chance of export, very mondeo like....

Malakai · Post by **Malakai** » February 17th, 2008, 5:21 pm

It looks like every other BA to BF falcon. I'm intrigued by the intake plenum though...

PS: Ford's website is shithouse, you can't see or find out anything because the fanciness of the site gets in the way.

holmsy · Post by **holmsy** » February 17th, 2008, 5:23 pm

yeh all plastic intake.
as far as i know to be made at geelong. but not 100% on that

EL XR8 · Post by **EL XR8** » February 17th, 2008, 5:33 pm

Well in 3 years i doubt there will be another Falcon ever made. This one will kill the name for sure.
Cause it certainly doesn't look much chop. Now a fucking Barina will probably outsell it...

EF ECTIV · Post by **EF ECTIV** » February 17th, 2008, 5:55 pm

To me it looks like a commodore VE/falcon BA-F hybrid thing..... I reckon with proper rims and mucho lowering itll look killer

f0nz · Post by **f0nz** » February 17th, 2008, 11:50 pm

This site has some pictures of them on it.
http://www.caradvice.com.au/10395/2008- ... s-gallery/

LUXO_8 · Post by **LUXO_8** » February 18th, 2008, 5:41 am

i quite like it, the G6E turbo looks like a mint bit of kit

LTDHO · Post by **LTDHO** » February 18th, 2008, 6:58 am

Have Ford lost the plot or what?

Series ID's of all same shape AU, BA, BF FG.. What's next 'WTF'?
After many years of loyal service the names 'Futura', 'Fairmont' and 'Fairmont Ghia' will be dropped and replaced with 'G6', 'G6E' and 'G6E Turbo' (the E stands for European Styling Cues... Pathetic). So no mention of a V8!

Answer: Yes Ford have lost it. They rapped the name 'Cobra' and killed the name 'GT' and now this.

Post by **Commando** » February 18th, 2008, 7:48 am

Yep, extremely disappointed. It's like they've overcorrected from the radical (as in, Muslim Cleric radical, not Ninja Turtles radical) AU and gone uber conservative/copycat. That side profile says Aurion/380/VE... Front looks like a Mondeo.

G6? G6E? They sound like Hyundai or Daewoo names! Sif kill the popular names that we've identified with since the 60s.

I noticed only the XR8 had a manual transmission listed. XR6 N/A had only two autos to choose from going by drive.com.au

Good to see 270kw/533nm XR6T combo and the 290kw/520kw XR8 combo. And also it's good to see the turbo make its was into the "regular" luxo range. I still think they should have extended its availability to XTs though.

Hopefully they continue the GT/Pursuits and Typhoon/Tornados.

Post by **Sunboost** » February 18th, 2008, 8:34 am

Don't know if anyone's written it here but I'm excitement about the G6T. That thing is the next Calais Turbo for sure. Can't fking wait till I can get my mits on one but don't know when that will be.

MMmmmmMMmmM the sexiness of a Fairmont Ghia mixed with the performance of an XR6 Turbo. How can you lose?

John_LS1 · Post by **John_LS1** » February 18th, 2008, 8:38 am

I dont mind it, the FPV range front bars look crap with the massive chunks of grey but the G6/G6E Range look nice. they should have kept the names Fairmont and Fairmont Ghia tho. dissapointed in the name change.

They should have made a Turbo Ghia ages ago!

Post by **EFFalcon** » February 18th, 2008, 9:17 am

i'm not overly excited, but its just antoher new falcon.. eh.
i'm not happy they got rid of the Fairmont name but yeah... a luxo Turbo... nice!

Post by **TUFED6** » February 18th, 2008, 9:21 am

Sundeep wrote: MMmmmmMMmmM the sexiness of a Fairmont Ghia mixed with the performance of an XR6 Turbo. How can you lose?

Same way you always lose with aussie cars, when the resale tanks hard after 2 years

Should be able to pick one up for a song in 2010 though!

Post by **Sunboost** » February 18th, 2008, 9:36 am

All they need now is an absynth yellow XT cop car with grey bars and highlights and a red turbo badge on the rear.

Post by **Sunboost** » February 18th, 2008, 9:41 am

All they need now is an absynth yellow XT cop car with grey bars and highlights and a red turbo badge on the rear.

Gunns · Post by **Gunns** » February 18th, 2008, 9:41 am

Sundeep wrote:All they need now is an absynth yellow XT cop car with grey bars and highlights and a red turbo badge on the rear.

Buy a VLT FFS

Post by **Commando** » February 18th, 2008, 9:47 am

Taxi body + XR6T wreck

Post by **Sunboost** » February 18th, 2008, 9:48 am

Gunns wrote:
Sundeep wrote:All they need now is an absynth yellow XT cop car with grey bars and highlights and a red turbo badge on the rear.
Buy a VLT FFS

Vl's are sht

Nikk O'lass · Post by **Nikk O'lass** » February 18th, 2008, 9:56 am

"The BA- or BF-spec I6 Turbo engines could never be accused of exhibiting significant turbo lag characteristics, however, the new turbocharger responds 30 per cent faster again compared to the previous generation system," Kernich said.

"It has been optimised to operate in a higher efficiency range, which allows boost to come on quicker and therefore minimises turbo lag even further.

"Increased turbocharger boost pressure and a new, bigger intercooler with low restriction ducting also play a key role in delivering more power, more torque and improved performance feel."

Maximum turbocharger boost pressure has increased from 0.4 bar to 0.7 bar, or from 6 psi to 10 psi.

The new intercooler features a bar and plate construction for maximum heat rejection and minimum flow restriction. It improves the air charge cooling efficiency and effectiveness by increasing the density of the air charge, in turn enabling an increase in engine power.

With more boost pressure increasing the air charge being forced into the cylinders by the turbocharger, the new intercooler and ducting also deliver substantial gains by way of:

· a 50 per cent increase in intercooler core volume and size

· a 40 per cent improvement in heat rejection

· a 34 per cent reduction in flow restriction

The complete air induction system has been redesigned to reduce system flow restrictions and system volume, which results in increases to power and torque, as well as improving both engine responsiveness and overall fuel economy.

A new single runner intake manifold contributes to the improved torque delivery and engine responsiveness through the entire operating range, as well as a 36 per cent reduction in throttled volume and a 44 per cent reduction in component weight.

Tuned to complement the new, higher efficiency turbocharger in achieving an overall improvement in both low and high speed torque, the new intake manifold has also been designed to achieve the desired acoustic quality – just like the new dual mode, split plenum composite intake manifold on the naturally aspirated I6 engine.

The compression ratio has increased from 8.7:1 to 8.8:1, in line with the new fast burn cylinder head and combustion chamber geometry, which improves overall engine efficiency by increasing power and reducing fuel consumption, as well as part throttle driveability.

An all-new exhaust manifold has been tuned to minimise exhaust gas flow restriction into the turbocharger and optimise the flow balance from cylinder to cylinder.

More turbine power has been extracted out of the exhaust gas, resulting in enhanced turbo responsiveness and further minimisation of turbo lag.

The reduced internal surface area of the new exhaust manifold maximises heat transfer to the catalyst, improving engine emissions by heating the catalytic converter faster after cold start-up.

Overall, the new exhaust manifold has delivered:

· a 14 per cent reduction in flow restriction

· a 10 per cent improvement in flow balance

· a 42 per cent reduction in internal surface area

· a 36 per cent reduction in weight

The net result of all the turbo system improvements is a significant increase to peak power and torque outputs on the new I6 Turbo engine, along with new levels of engine responsiveness and considerable gains in terms of fuel economy and efficiency.

Maximum power is up by 25 kW to 270 kW at 5250 rpm, while peak torque has increased by 53 Nm – or more than 11 per cent – to 533 Nm, which is available across a wide rev range from 2000 rpm – 4750 rpm.

"With 80 per cent of the peak torque available all the way from 1250 rpm to 5750 rpm, the new I6 Turbo engine transforms the performance feel of our turbo models, delivering seamless power and fantastic responsiveness across all driving conditions," Kernich concluded.

Over boost & launch assist technology

The I6 Turbo engine features a number of new and unique performance features, which serve to expand the envelope of useable performance at both ends of the spectrum – maximising both standing start and in-gear performance.

While the calibration of the I6 Turbo engine has been optimised to improve fuel economy, it also incorporates a transient over boost feature, as well as launch assist and adaptive variable camshaft timing (VCT) anti-lag technologies.

"The transient over boost feature allows the engine to over boost by up to 10 per cent for several seconds, increasing available engine torque for improved performance during driving events such as overtaking manoeuvres," Ford Australia Powertrain Development Manager, David Mitchell said.

"Manual transmission turbo models are also equipped with a launch assist anti-lag feature, which increases available engine torque for more consistent maximum launch acceleration, as well as reducing turbo and exhaust temperatures, and minimising turbo lag and clutch wear."

During wide open throttle launches, positive boost pressures were previously not achievable to enable an optimum launch scenario.

The launch assist feature is activated when the vehicle is stationary – with clutch fully disengaged and requisite accelerator applied, engine speed is limited to a maximum of 3500 rpm by actively cutting fuel.

After a small delay of approximately 2-3 seconds, the turbo spools up with 80 per cent cool fresh air, which is pumped by the cylinders that have been deactivated. When the clutch is released and the vehicle starts to move away, all cylinders are reactivated and access to full torque is returned.

"The net result of the launch assist anti-lag feature is a more easily repeatable execution of a rapid and smooth launch, while at the same time increasing drivetrain protection during such events," Mitchell said.

Post by **TUFED6** » February 18th, 2008, 10:03 am

Out of all the FG media hype, the only part that interests me is that the XR6T has a new pump.

Wonder if anyone has any specs on it yet?

Nikk O'lass · Post by **Nikk O'lass** » February 18th, 2008, 10:09 am

93edxr6 · Post by **93edxr6** » February 18th, 2008, 10:18 am

now this thing is cool

+1 for Taxi body + XR6T wreck << first car when i get off my p's

dose any one think the back looks like the ve?? but not as big

door handels?????

also is this still based on ba-bf?? or is it ment to be all new??

but yer anyways kinda cool

Gunns · Post by **Gunns** » February 18th, 2008, 10:29 am

If I was to get a F6, I would be straight to a panel shop to color code those panda eyes.

galapogos01 · Post by **galapogos01** » February 18th, 2008, 10:47 am

TUFED6 wrote:Out of all the FG media hype, the only part that interests me is that the XR6T has a new pump.
Wonder if anyone has any specs on it yet?

what about the manual car's launch control which disables cylinders and pumps cool air into the turbo to get boost at low RPM before takeoff?

and the better flowing, 4kg lighter, opposite facing TB intake manifold (possibly a 'mod' for BA-BF for less intake piping)?

there are shedloads of refinements they've made to an engine thats about to go to the bin that make you wonder WTF ford aus are doing. why they've never exported an aussie falcon to europe/US/middle east is beyond me.

Post by **TUFED6** » February 18th, 2008, 11:00 am

galapogos01 wrote: what about the manual car's launch control which disables cylinders and pumps cool air into the turbo to get boost at low RPM before takeoff?

and the better flowing, 4kg lighter, opposite facing TB intake manifold (possibly a 'mod' for BA-BF for less intake piping)?

All of which is irrelevant because as soon as you start making serious power you bust CV's

galapogos01 wrote: there are shedloads of refinements they've made to an engine thats about to go to the bin that make you wonder WTF ford aus are doing. why they've never exported an aussie falcon to europe/US/middle east is beyond me.

Ford US probably has them by the balls, don't want to cannibalize markets served by US factories and further drive them into the ground... get the impression Ford AU just aren't a priority?

Post by **Commando** » February 18th, 2008, 11:10 am

Gunns wrote:If I was to get a F6, I would be straight to a panel shop to color code those panda eyes.

ned · Post by **ned** » February 18th, 2008, 12:37 pm

Falcon XT

More pics to follow.
Enjoy.

ned · Post by **ned** » February 18th, 2008, 12:37 pm

Falcon G6, G6E & G6E Turbo - Not many pics of these.

ned · Post by **ned** » February 18th, 2008, 12:38 pm

Falcon XR6 Turbo

ned · Post by **ned** » February 18th, 2008, 12:39 pm

Falcon XR8 Ute

ned · Post by **ned** » February 18th, 2008, 12:39 pm

Falcon XR8 Sedan

ned · Post by **ned** » February 18th, 2008, 12:40 pm

FPV F6

ned · Post by **ned** » February 18th, 2008, 12:41 pm

FPV GT