$5000 On A EB Engine,How Should I Spend It???

by **Michael (HYPOEB)** » April 14th, 2009, 7:29 pm

i got around 5k too spend on my EB XR6 engine. im pritty sure the bottom end is fucked since it blows alot of smoke,knocks every now and then and drinks alot of oil.

so im up for a new bottom end,i was lookin at a DEV 4 Jim Mock engine for $5200 fitted and tuned with 160rwkw.
but now im being told there are alot cheaper ways to get more power,dose anyone have any info on place's i could go to and prices and stuff like that???

any help would be great thanx!

by **holmsy** » April 14th, 2009, 7:31 pm

standard motor.
turbo
done.

by **LUXO_8** » April 14th, 2009, 7:32 pm

snort performance
http://www.snortperformance.com/

by **mickyyyy** » April 14th, 2009, 7:35 pm

AU engine conversion then turbo it, but would go over 5k if u get a proper turbo setup plus fuel system and tuning.

Maybe AU fully rebuilt with high comp and get abit of headwork done

by **Michael (HYPOEB)** » April 14th, 2009, 7:35 pm

i've beeen looking at that site and the kits look great BUT i dont no how much would it cost too fit and too be all tuned??

by **travs ea-xr6** » April 14th, 2009, 7:36 pm

but your still on your p plates arnt ya mate

by **holmsy** » April 14th, 2009, 7:37 pm

depends how much ya want to do your self.
if your after more then 160rwkw turbo or charger is almost the only way.
not many NA 6's around making that or more.

you can always peice together a turbo kit. people have done it much cheaper.

by **Malakai** » April 14th, 2009, 7:39 pm

LOL 160kw for $5200, now that's a business model.

by **travs ea-xr6** » April 14th, 2009, 7:39 pm

go supercharger,thats what i want to do :grin:

by **EBOOST** » April 14th, 2009, 7:50 pm

yeah if u want a nice motor build an au motor built mone for a mate not long ago with mild headwork and a nice wade cam he made 145rwkw on gas and should get another 5-10rwkw more if he gets more gas in.
and paul from cve told him thats the gas is loosing him 20rwkw so on fuel might make 160-165rwkw and i think it cost him all up for pistons ring all machine work about $2000.
oh and its one of the smoothest revving sohc 4litres ive been in.
cheers josh.

by **private9** » April 14th, 2009, 7:52 pm

Malakai wrote:LOL 160kw for $5200, now that's a business model.

Step 1: Standard rebuild
Step 2: $300 of mild head work and $100 of reground cam
Step 3: $11ty billion thousand to JMM for 160rwMockerwatts
Step 4; ????????
Step 5: PROFIT!

by **Michael (HYPOEB)** » April 14th, 2009, 7:56 pm

if i buy that stage 2 turbo kit for 3k dose anyone no how much that would cost too get fitted and tuned??

by **Dansedgli** » April 14th, 2009, 7:57 pm

$600 max

by **travs ea-xr6** » April 14th, 2009, 7:57 pm

youd fit it your sellf and then get cve to tune it with a j3 chip

by **Michael (HYPOEB)** » April 14th, 2009, 7:59 pm

Dansedgli wrote:$600 max

$600 to get fitted and tuned??

by **Troutman** » April 14th, 2009, 8:03 pm

I think the smart money is on rebuilding what you've got and you then have options like forced induction, N/A mods, selling or heaven forbid saving some money. :mrgreen:

I don't know if things have changed, but the Mocks were accused of having a kW-happy dyno back in the day. And, for the sake of comparison, a brand new 6.2L 317kW HSV motor as fitted to the latest models (without fitment) costs 6 and a bit grand from one supplier.

by **JETURBO** » April 14th, 2009, 8:03 pm

whats a j 3 chip sorry for sounding dumb but can it be real time tuned then saved onto the hard where? :oops:

by **holmsy** » April 14th, 2009, 8:08 pm

its a chip that goes into the bottom of the standard ecu.
it can be completely tuned on dyno etc.
there use search funtion on the forums there is ALOT of information about them.

by **private9** » April 14th, 2009, 8:09 pm

JETURBO wrote:whats a j 3 chip sorry for sounding dumb but can it be real time tuned then saved onto the hard where?

viewtopic.php?f=16&t=267

by **private9** » April 14th, 2009, 8:10 pm

Troutman wrote:And, for the sake of comparison, a brand new 6.2L 317kW HSV motor as fitted to the latest models (without fitment) costs 6 and a bit grand from one supplier.

Love the comparison!

by **Michael (HYPOEB)** » April 14th, 2009, 8:13 pm

dose anyone have the number for cve? since it seems like thats the place too go and the people too talk too.

and are they in melburne?

by **private9** » April 14th, 2009, 8:23 pm

cini wrote:dose anyone have the number for cve? since it seems like thats the place too go and the people too talk too.

and are they in melburne?

http://www.cveperformance.com/

by **Michael (HYPOEB)** » April 14th, 2009, 8:29 pm

private9 wrote:
cini wrote:dose anyone have the number for cve? since it seems like thats the place too go and the people too talk too.

and are they in melburne?

http://www.cveperformance.com/

thanx.

so im thinkin of going too get a reco bottom end wich is around $1000 down here then buying that stage 2 turbo kit for $3000 then getting that fitted and tuned (that other guy said that will cost no more then $600,wich seems a little too cheep.)

hows that sound?

by **Michael (HYPOEB)** » April 14th, 2009, 9:04 pm

so theres no way of fixing my bottom end and getting it turboed for 5k?

by **holmsy** » April 14th, 2009, 9:09 pm

yes there is.
3 grand turbo kit.
$500 max motor (if you just change over or even go au motor. little more for au motor conversion)
6-700 for j3 chip with tune.

plus fitting. can do most if it ya self if ya got any mechanical skills.

by **Michael (HYPOEB)** » April 14th, 2009, 9:21 pm

holmsy wrote:yes there is.
3 grand turbo kit.
$500 max motor (if you just change over or even go au motor. little more for au motor conversion)
6-700 for j3 chip with tune.

plus fitting. can do most if it ya self if ya got any mechanical skills.

fitting an au motor into an eb is no problem? just like fitting another eb engine in?

by **holmsy** » April 14th, 2009, 9:31 pm

well depends if you go serpentine belt n shit
my ed has au motor with serp belt
worked out to cost nearly 1000
but i got new hoses new radiator,belt, couple of new seals and gaskets,
all the front end stuff. and low k motor

by **Michael (HYPOEB)** » April 14th, 2009, 9:34 pm

holmsy wrote:well depends if you go serpentine belt n shit
my ed has au motor with serp belt
worked out to cost nearly 1000
but i got new hoses new radiator,belt, couple of new seals and gaskets,
all the front end stuff. and low k motor

so i fit the au engine and brought that 3k turbo kit would cve fit the kit and tune it for 700 or is the chip 700 and i hav too fit it myself??

sorry guys i dont no too much about turbo engines...

by **holmsy** » April 14th, 2009, 9:37 pm

j3 chip supplied installed and tuned as far as i know is 6-700

fitting of ya turbo kit and motor on top of that

by **Michael (HYPOEB)** » April 14th, 2009, 9:42 pm

holmsy wrote:j3 chip supplied installed and tuned as far as i know is 6-700

fitting of ya turbo kit and motor on top of that

you wouldnt happen too no how much it would cost too fit the turbo kit?

by **holmsy** » April 14th, 2009, 9:47 pm

call cve (paul) or msg v8capri on here

by **Michael (HYPOEB)** » April 14th, 2009, 9:49 pm

holmsy wrote:call cve (paul) or msg v8capri on here

yehh i think giving som1 a call would be the best idea.

thanx for all the help everyone on here!!

ill be back if i need too no more lol.

by **tezza bear** » April 14th, 2009, 11:40 pm

Give Dandynights a pm he'll sell u a nos kit for about $800 Guaranteed 170+rwkw while ur finger is pressed firmly on the gobabygo button....

No seriously give V8capri a pm from what i have heard on here & from a few mates he does wonders with the e-series cars & reasonably priced to. & as soon as i get a few $$$$ spare i'll be knocking on his pm box.....

by **Michael (HYPOEB)** » April 14th, 2009, 11:44 pm

tezza bear wrote:Give Dandynights a pm he'll sell u a nos kit for about $800 Guaranteed 170+rwkw while ur finger is pressed firmly on the gobabygo button....

No seriously give V8capri a pm from what i have heard on here & from a few mates he does wonders with the e-series cars & reasonably priced to. & as soon as i get a few $$$$ spare i'll be knocking on his pm box.....

yehh i've been told that by alot of people aswell.
i talked too him befor and i think im going too go with him,just got too wait for him too get back to me.

thanks again everyone.

by **Eb Barbie** » April 15th, 2009, 8:37 am

travs ea-xr6 wrote:but your still on your p plates arnt ya mate

Just dont get caught. I'm still on mine.

Turbo it! Lots of fun

by **Troutman** » April 15th, 2009, 10:16 am

If you're turboing a $500 secondhand motor in unknown condition, just make sure you have extra funds available...

by **Sunboost** » April 15th, 2009, 10:23 am

Troutman wrote:If you're turboing a $500 secondhand motor in unknown condition, just make sure you have extra funds available...

I did that

3 years and no oil changes later, she still goes 100 hectares on a single tank of kerosene.

Nah, not really. It had 180 through it which is pretty modest in today's E-Series turbo talk, but the motor did hold up well. Still going, and yeah no oil changes

I'll get around to it after I change the head gasket.

But yea, $500 motors aren't too bad. The only person I've heard of with millions of dramas with E-Series motors is Wave man's EL.

by **Michael (HYPOEB)** » April 15th, 2009, 10:58 am

Eb Barbie wrote:
travs ea-xr6 wrote:but your still on your p plates arnt ya mate

Just dont get caught. I'm still on mine.

Turbo it! Lots of fun

yehh im not too worryed about the hole p plate thing...

by **BROCKYB8** » April 15th, 2009, 11:08 am

Sundeep wrote:
Troutman wrote:If you're turboing a $500 secondhand motor in unknown condition, just make sure you have extra funds available...

I did that 3 years and no oil changes later, she still goes 100 hectares on a single tank of kerosene.

Nah, not really. It had 180 through it which is pretty modest in today's E-Series turbo talk, but the motor did hold up well. Still going, and yeah no oil changes I'll get around to it after I change the head gasket.

But yea, $500 motors aren't too bad. The only person I've heard of with millions of dramas with E-Series motors is Wave man's EL.

And YBYAVL has gone through 3 i beleieve as well

by **nothin suss** » April 15th, 2009, 11:10 am

Sell your car and buy one already modded and sorted for $5k....

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