MPH VS RWKW u sure u want to go ahead?

[Hiboost]

im still yet to see an exact story of what has happened or anything.
try explaining what happened to your "mates"
instead of avoiding saying anything factual and still ignoring any facts.

still ignoring ey

Nope i asked the question above about a silver VR

[holmsy]

instead of giving info. so yeh your still not saying shit

[Rollin]

Slightly offtopic Hiboost, but what is your affiliation with RAJAB racing? Is this like a Casper/JMM, BIGTIM/Snort, Rollin/Lokka, type deal? I'm just curious as to why you'd have the free plug in your signature?

Just for the record, I have recieved absolutely nothing from having my car in the ads for 4wd systems. Absolutely fucking nothing.

I'm quite pissed about it because I'm fairly sure I put about 7k cashflow through their doors as a result of my infactuation with lokkas, and all they've done is use pics of my car in their ads. I've not even had an email asking if it was ok.

Having watched your 10.7 clip, i don't rate a car that sits on the line for 5-10seconds spooling as a true 10 second car, as it has been said, different Dyno's give different figures, hell rollin made 430rwhp at hi power and 370rwhp at fat pipes on the same tune...

430 to 370 even after fitting a 60mm gate and modifying the exhaust to greatly improve flow no less.


As an aside and slightly more on topic I'm of the opinion that dyno temp sensors SHOULD be left hanging on the wall.

I had previously thought that sitting them in the engine bay was the way to go, but I have revised my thoughts on this.

If a car has a busted ass intake setup (like mine/most turbo cars) and the pod sucks bullshit hot air from directly behind the radiator, it will have less power than an identical car with a proper cold air intake.

In theory, if you dynoed that car with the two different intake setups and the intake sensor positioned to read actual intake temp, the one with the shit intake will read higher, even though it is actually making LESS power on the street/track!

Intake air temp should be the same as ambient temp, and none of this compensating for crap intake setup shit.

[Hiboost]

im still yet to see an exact story of what has happened or anything.
try explaining what happened to your "mates"
instead of avoiding saying anything factual and still ignoring any facts.

still ignoring ey?

MR.CVE what happend with the silver vr u tuned? ya remember?

[t1MMy]

i ant representing anyone but me. i get my car tuned der thats all...THIS IS NOT A WORKSHOP WAR!!!!!

i tuned my own car, ive done mates cars, no i havent meet the BLOKE, my mates have...oh and how many engines have i BLOWN UP?0

hmmmmmm...

Hmmmmmmm bout what?

It's called contradiction mate. That's what he's pointing out.

con·tra·dic·tion Listen to the pronunciation of contradiction
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Function:
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Date:
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1: act or an instance of contradicting2 a: a proposition, statement, or phrase that asserts or implies both the truth and falsity of something b: a statement or phrase whose parts contradict each other <a round square is a contradiction in terms>3 a: logical incongruity b: a situation in which inherent factors, actions, or propositions are inconsistent or contrary to one another

[Commando]

i ant representing anyone but me. i get my car tuned der thats all...THIS IS NOT A WORKSHOP WAR!!!!!

i tuned my own car, ive done mates cars, no i havent meet the BLOKE, my mates have...oh and how many engines have i BLOWN UP?0

hmmmmmm...

Hmmmmmmm bout what?

SO do you tune IT yourself, or DO you GET your CAR tuned at Rajab?

[Steady]

hiboost

knowledgable chap.

just won't answer direct questions.

shame.

would add to his credibility.

i think.

you know what is a big credibility killer?
anonymity.

[Hiboost]

instead of giving info. so yeh your still not saying shit

ill let MR.CVE talk bout it.

[Hiboost]

SO do you tune IT yourself, or DO you GET your CAR tuned at Rajab?

the 10.7 was tuned BY ALAN RAJAB (MOTEC) the 11.2 tune (ADAPTRONIC) was done by me..

[basilisk211]

instead of giving info. so yeh your still not saying shit

ill let MR.CVE talk bout it.

innuendos are usually made by people who are not sure of their facts. usually when they are working off heresay.

[Steady]

instead of giving info. so yeh your still not saying shit

ill let MR.CVE talk bout it.

innuendos are usually made by people who are not sure of their facts. usually when they are working off heresay.

and people who make anonymous attacks are usually cowards.

[Commando]

hiboost

knowledgable chap.

just won't answer direct questions.

shame.

would add to his credibility.

i think.

you know what is a big credibility killer?
anonymity.

Steady he's an existing member, posting under a different IP to remain anonymous. I'm tipping there won't be any build threads or introduction threads or any other kind of activity from this guy, beyond this thread or future threads involving CVE/HiBoost

[oneredED]

Are you shitting me Dan? That's fuckingbullshit

EDIT: thread too fast, I was referring to Rollin and the Lokka bullshit.

[boostedbb]

im trying to understand how you keep saying were not having WORKSHOP WARS but you go off topic to a problem occuring with a vr he tuned which sounds like a workshop problem not a fualty dyno reading?

[EFFalcon]

i find it funny how this started as shauns car rwkw vs mph.
then innacurate dyno numbers
then personal attacks directly towards Mr CVE
and now trying to destroy his credibility.

i can't help but think you had this intention from the start.

[Steady]

hiboost

knowledgable chap.

just won't answer direct questions.

shame.

would add to his credibility.

i think.

you know what is a big credibility killer?
anonymity.

Steady he's an existing member, posting under a different IP to remain anonymous. I'm tipping there won't be any build threads or introduction threads or any other kind of activity from this guy, beyond this thread or future threads involving CVE/HiBoost

so see below basically?

and people who make anonymous attacks are usually cowards.

i find it funny how this started as shauns car rwkw vs mph.
then innacurate dyno numbers
then personal attacks directly towards Mr CVE
and now trying to destroy his credibility.

i can't help but think you had this intention from the start.

thats a long bow to draw John!

[boostedbb]

i find it funny how this started as shauns car rwkw vs mph.
then innacurate dyno numbers
then personal attacks directly towards Mr CVE
and now trying to destroy his credibility.

i can't help but think you had this intention from the start.

looks that way doesn't it

[Hiboost]

i find it funny how this started as shauns car rwkw vs mph.
then innacurate dyno numbers
then personal attacks directly towards Mr CVE
and now trying to destroy his credibility.

i can't help but think you had this intention from the start.

john i never did have this intention from the start, i was only asking shaun the rwk vs the MPH ... and its twisted and turned it to this...

[basilisk211]

Steady he's an existing member, posting under a different IP to remain anonymous. I'm tipping there won't be any build threads or introduction threads or any other kind of activity from this guy, beyond this thread or future threads involving CVE/HiBoost

me? just browsing, interesting thread, joined, now asking a few questions. would just like to see an answer or two. just curious.

[EFFalcon]

i find it funny how this started as shauns car rwkw vs mph.
then innacurate dyno numbers
then personal attacks directly towards Mr CVE
and now trying to destroy his credibility.

i can't help but think you had this intention from the start.

john i never did have this intention from the start, i was only asking shaun the rwk vs the MPH ... and its twisted and turned it to this...

fair enough, but when did it become neccesary to try and discredit Paul?

[skidder]

ill say this again, if u take off from the start line and have wheel spin till haf the track i guess u are already doing some MPH, then at half track u get traction and u then have 200m left... so u are not starting from 0MPH from half a track

Yes, but you sure as hell won't be doing the same speed at half track as you would be if you were accelerating constantly with no wheelspin, would you?

mate u dont get it ill just give up on u....ull understand one day when u race ...

If the point of your car is to race then why the emphasis on peak power? All peak power is good for is penis extension and winning dyno comps; unless you are going to the salt flats I suppose.

[Hiboost]

i find it funny how this started as shauns car rwkw vs mph.
then innacurate dyno numbers
then personal attacks directly towards Mr CVE
and now trying to destroy his credibility.

i can't help but think you had this intention from the start.

john i never did have this intention from the start, i was only asking shaun the rwk vs the MPH ... and its twisted and turned it to this...

fair enough, but when did it become neccesary to try and discredit Paul?

john if i really did want to discredit paul i would of... this is me just asking questions ..

[EFFalcon]

what do u mean laggy how many people have the SNORT manifold on? a LOT and i had the SNORT one and LAG was never a PROBLEM, I also had a 1.5mm +two head gaskets and didnt notice anylag turbo spooled up at 2200RPM

surely you know its not just the manifold that effects how laggy it is.
2 points worth noting straight away, you're running a ball bearing turbo
you've also got a proper tune.

Shaun's car is running plain bearing'
shaun is also running stock ECU... with timing turned back a little
so offboost isnt as responsive, which also means more lag

[EFFalcon]

john if i really did want to discredit paul i would of... this is me just asking questions ..

so why keep bringing up the commodore (which i know the story of).

[Steady]

Steady he's an existing member, posting under a different IP to remain anonymous. I'm tipping there won't be any build threads or introduction threads or any other kind of activity from this guy, beyond this thread or future threads involving CVE/HiBoost

me? just browsing, interesting thread, joined, now asking a few questions. would just like to see an answer or two. just curious.

neck up, snake.

[krisisdog]

john if i really did want to discredit paul i would of... this is me just asking questions ..

Fucking do it then!
Stop saying shit and not following it up FFS!
Its fucking annoying reading all your posts dancing around the fucking topic like a nancy. You started this shit and have proved absolutely nothing!

[Hiboost]

what do u mean laggy how many people have the SNORT manifold on? a LOT and i had the SNORT one and LAG was never a PROBLEM, I also had a 1.5mm +two head gaskets and didnt notice anylag turbo spooled up at 2200RPM

surely you know its not just the manifold that effects how laggy it is.
2 points worth noting straight away, you're running a ball bearing turbo
you've also got a proper tune.

Shaun's car is running plain bearing'
shaun is also running stock ECU... with timing turned back a little
so offboost isnt as responsive, which also means more lag

ive had a std ecu, plain bearing turbo, my timing was turned back alot. i did 179rwk and did 105MPH +13.3 sec i never noticed any lag...oh plus a 1.5mm decomp plate and two head gaskets on top.

[skidder]

what do u mean laggy how many people have the SNORT manifold on? a LOT and i had the SNORT one and LAG was never a PROBLEM, I also had a 1.5mm +two head gaskets and didnt notice anylag turbo spooled up at 2200RPM

surely you know its not just the manifold that effects how laggy it is.
2 points worth noting straight away, you're running a ball bearing turbo
you've also got a proper tune.

Shaun's car is running plain bearing'
shaun is also running stock ECU... with timing turned back a little
so offboost isnt as responsive, which also means more lag

ive had a std ecu, plain bearing turbo, my timing was turned back alot. i did 179rwk and did 105MPH +13.3 sec i never noticed any lag...oh plus a 1.5mm decomp plate and two head gaskets on top.

I'm surprised neither has brought up what turbos and exhaust housings you were running?

[Hiboost]

I GIVE UP IM GOING TO WATCH T4, if u guys still want to continue keep posting...and ILL BE BACK

[Commando]

a timely exit...

[Steady]

a timely exit...

why, because the retard brigade have got no more pearls of wisdom to share with us?
MPH is no indicator of power.
A 10 second pass where you have to spool up is not a real 10 second pass.
Fukk, I am just waiting for someone to say "turbos are cheating anyway"

I have never ever ever seen so much stupidity displayed in one thread on this forum before, it literally repulses me.

[skidder]

Reading this thread after doing shitty uni work all day just made me so much happier. Is he for real?

[SnyperEB]

Mr. CVE do you think snypers car ran a good mph for 231rwkw?? was the there any factors that made it run slower than it should have?

Finally a real question that is worth answering.
And the answer to that is .... ( sorry shaun) NO.
It is not a good time for the power output.
And there are a few reasons for this, the way his turbo is setup it is very laggy and very peaky. in order to control detonation he has backed the timing off dramatically.
He has lower than std compression, which does not help.
I drove it the other day on the street and commented on how average it was off boost, but at the end of the day he was happy with it and decided to take it to heathcote. He wanted to run FULL street trim, so sub box in and all. std street tyres

For the record the dyno run was done with a different diff ratio to what he has now.

I would expect with some sticky tyres and a nice cold air intake and a tune it SHOULD run low 13's
but it is not up to me.
Oh and it hasn't been dynoed in a fair while so it may be a bit tired, or a bit better, who knows, mixtures could be out, who knows.
It's a bit hard to compare a dyno sheet from a couple years ago to a run at heathcote.

it would have been nice to say launch at more rpm but his tyres / suspension just would not allow it.

You have nothign to be sorry about Paul I knew that the car was certainly not going to do a massively great time due to all those factors but I went with it and I came out happy. I went with the intention of doing a 13 and I came home very happy.

Next time ill have an auto and no interior and Ill sit at the line and spool for 5mins then launch.

[Hiboost]

a timely exit...

why, because the retard brigade have got no more pearls of wisdom to share with us?
MPH is no indicator of power.
A 10 second pass where you have to spool up is not a real 10 second pass.
Fukk, I am just waiting for someone to say "turbos are cheating anyway"

I have never ever ever seen so much stupidity displayed in one thread on this forum before, it literally repulses me.

LOL

[[Sterling]]

Bluepower Racing Developments

[Rollin]

Turbos are cheating anyway......hey...wait a second......


There are so many different things being argued about it's impossible to understand wtf is going on.

Cliff notes

a) Dynos are an indicator of how much power you have.

b) Trap speed is an indicator of how much power you have.

c) Beating the **** beside you at the lights or on the freeway is an indicator that your car is faster than his for the duration of the race at that point in time.

d) 4wd systems are **** for not giving me 11ty dollars to make my car faster than all you **** so I can be the supreme ruler of all the world and smash multiple boxes/session due to all the insanely hot bisexual chicks who are willing to share me with their friends because box cars are the shit, the whole shit and nothing but the shit.

[someLS1]

a timely exit...

why, because the retard brigade have got no more pearls of wisdom to share with us?
MPH is no indicator of power.
A 10 second pass where you have to spool up is not a real 10 second pass.
Fukk, I am just waiting for someone to say "turbos are cheating anyway"

I have never ever ever seen so much stupidity displayed in one thread on this forum before, it literally repulses me.

Yer no shiiit.... my head hurts and i generally feel stupider

but the one thing that has pissed me off

Man credit to hiboost for running the 10.7...
Thats the biggest fuckin load ive shit ive ever heard spooling up is not a run

[SnyperEB]

a timely exit...

why, because the retard brigade have got no more pearls of wisdom to share with us?
MPH is no indicator of power.
A 10 second pass where you have to spool up is not a real 10 second pass.
Fukk, I am just waiting for someone to say "turbos are cheating anyway"

I have never ever ever seen so much stupidity displayed in one thread on this forum before, it literally repulses me.

[SnyperEB]

a timely exit...

why, because the retard brigade have got no more pearls of wisdom to share with us?
MPH is no indicator of power.
A 10 second pass where you have to spool up is not a real 10 second pass.
Fukk, I am just waiting for someone to say "turbos are cheating anyway"

I have never ever ever seen so much stupidity displayed in one thread on this forum before, it literally repulses me.

Yer no shiiit.... my head hurts and i generally feel stupider

but the one thing that has pissed me off

Man credit to hiboost for running the 10.7...
Thats the biggest fuckin load ive shit ive ever heard spooling up is not a run

Sorry Max thats just how I feel.

[John_LS1]

I agree with rollin on the fact that beating the **** next to you at the lights is all that matters. if you lose then its time to spend more money.

Also spooling up for your run is fine, after all, arent you trying to get the best time possible? similar with stalling an N/A auto, launching at 3k in a manual. if you can get the traction go for it!

on another note (there is so many in this thread!) my ED when i had it made the same +-2kw on the CVE dyno and on the dynomotive dyno. same goes for my 1/4 times. heathcote and calder i had a 14.6