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Providing Proof

Postby Revengelane » September 20th, 2009, 11:23 pm

Just a suggestion, on the Boosted Performance Times/ Numbers could we possible get a section to provide/ add proof????

Most people seem pretty chuffed on the performance of there car so they probably would still have the dyno (questionably) sheet and 1/4 mile time (what really matters) slip lying around.

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Re: Providing Proof

Postby needfordspeed » September 20th, 2009, 11:26 pm

Maybe we could get a timeslip database going....i'll speak to John about it, I wouldn't know how to start something like that up!
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Re: Providing Proof

Postby Revengelane » September 20th, 2009, 11:33 pm

Yeah something like that would be good.
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Re: Providing Proof

Postby Rollin » September 21st, 2009, 7:41 am

I don't think it really matters, I don't reckon people here would bullshit about times or kw, we aren't MarkTD spec here...
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Re: Providing Proof

Postby mad_keen » September 21st, 2009, 8:41 am

good idea.

people always bullshit..

not that its really proof. Everyone on here is too good at photoshop lol.
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Re: Providing Proof

Postby BROCKYB8 » September 21st, 2009, 9:26 am

Id agree with that.
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Re: Providing Proof

Postby Dansedgli » September 21st, 2009, 9:35 am

Sounds like a good idea. We all know timeslips and dyno figures get you more street cred on the internet.
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Re: Providing Proof

Postby bushman » September 21st, 2009, 11:29 am

I wouldn't post in there anyway my NA times are embarrassing :banghead:
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Re: Providing Proof

Postby dcstraight » September 21st, 2009, 11:38 am

I'm with Rollin on this one...waste of time - it's not a bible FFS. If only people could be humble with the powers of the internetz :roll:

mad_keen - "People always bullshit" - yeah, really ? Awesome - glad I'm not one of those wankers then :lol:
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Re: Providing Proof

Postby 67rce » September 21st, 2009, 11:47 am

Only people who are speaking shit need to prove anything. You can always pick them out anyway.
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Re: Providing Proof

Postby Steady » September 21st, 2009, 11:51 am

lets stop beating around the bush here, who are you calling a bullshit artist?
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Re: Providing Proof

Postby TUFED6 » September 21st, 2009, 11:53 am

Steady wrote:lets stop beating around the bush here, who are you calling a bullshit artist?


+1, if you have something to say just say it. You won't have to watch the tears/rage from the safety of your computer.
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Re: Providing Proof

Postby Malakai » September 21st, 2009, 3:33 pm

Not that posting up a dyno sheet or time slip will help anyway.

In the new list everyone will have to post up at least three dyno sheets and time slips from different dynos and tracks that have been certified by a qualified JP and bare the official wax seal from the Duke of Wellington. The dyno graphs and time slips will have to have accompanying photographs of the signed JP inside or within one meter of said car as it is doing it's power run on the dyno or as it goes through the traps on the strip. Photographs will need to be date and time stamped by the camera taking the photo, EXIF data will need to be left in tact to help verify the image authenticity. In the case of a dyno power run the parameters of the dyno will need to be calibrated by an independent operator provided by the manufacturer of the said dyno. In the case of a 1/4 mile pass there will need to be no less than one physicist, one biologist, one astronomer and one witch doctor to verify the weather, ground and planet alignment conditions at the time of the run. The earth's rotation will have to be stopped completely for the duration of the run so to rule out any help it may provide to the car. The earths axis is slightly tilted so this would need to be righted beforehand as well. There will need to be complete silence to help the driver focus so therefore a giant glass dome will need to be constructed over the track to allow a vacuum to be created. The car will be fitted with apparatus to simulate controlled levels of air and pressure to facilitate the proper operation of the engine. There will be a one minute movement freeze and silence imposed upon all living things across the entire planet so that a Spotted Starry Nosed Rock Quoll on the other side of the world doesn't cause any vibrations that might change the result of the pass. All volcanoes the world over will need to be extinguished prior to the run for the same reason. We will of course have to come up with a way to control the weather and all of nature before this level of stadardisation is put into place.

Until then I suppose we should just their word for it... within reason of course.
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Re: Providing Proof

Postby Revengelane » September 21st, 2009, 3:56 pm

Wow........ a simple yes or no would do...
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Re: Providing Proof

Postby Gozza » September 21st, 2009, 4:11 pm

LOL - need employment much Brett? I know what Matt is saying. I don't know if its directed at anybody in particular
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Re: Providing Proof

Postby Revengelane » September 21st, 2009, 4:17 pm

Nah not directed at anyone, I saw something similar on Skylines Australia forum it looked pretty cool so I thought it might be a good idea.
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Re: Providing Proof

Postby Steady » September 21st, 2009, 4:39 pm

I assumed/hoped someone would get called out :(
I reckon the thread works better then a database, it comes up as a new post when it gets updated so i wont miss it when TUFED6 runs a 9.
Also any shenanigans get spotted quicker for the same reason.
It also gives people the opportunity to post extra info (boost/tyre type/excuses).
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Re: Providing Proof

Postby Gubas » September 21st, 2009, 4:43 pm

Revengelane wrote:Wow........ a simple yes or no would do...


Dude, read your first post

Revengelane wrote:
Opinions??


I really dont think its necessary. Its only the internet
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Re: Providing Proof

Postby Malakai » September 21st, 2009, 4:44 pm

Gozza wrote:LOL - need employment much Brett? I know what Matt is saying. I don't know if its directed at anybody in particular

I recon you fudged your dyno figure gozza, I haven't seen a sheet yet.

16psi to make 300hp... sucks to be you. You know everyone is thinking it.
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Re: Providing Proof

Postby Revengelane » September 21st, 2009, 4:48 pm

Steady wrote:I assumed/hoped someone would get called out :(
I reckon the thread works better then a database, it comes up as a new post when it gets updated so i wont miss it when TUFED6 runs a 9.
Also any shenanigans get spotted quicker for the same reason.
It also gives people the opportunity to post extra info (boost/tyre type/excuses).


Databases are cool and easy to update and no more copy paste everyone's 1/4 mile/ hp reading.
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Re: Providing Proof

Postby vulpine » September 21st, 2009, 5:25 pm

well if i dont have to provide a dyno or time slip i ran a 7.1 second 1/4 and have a 1200rwkw ea stock pistons and rods and its na.
i think any stats should come with some sort of proof even if its just a g tech readout.
Its not even a question of trust, it is a question of how accurate the statistics are.
e.g. a 1/4 with a stop watch compared to 1/4 with an offical timing system.....big difference in accuracy.
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Re: Providing Proof

Postby dcstraight » September 21st, 2009, 5:40 pm

lol @ gtech !

SImple -

1) Look at time on timeslip / dyno readout.
2) Utilise brain to transfer said digits to keyboard
3) Submit & voila !

As for different dynos...well there is always going to be a 'discussion' there - that is what these boards are for no ?
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Re: Providing Proof

Postby Rollin » September 21st, 2009, 6:03 pm

vulpine wrote:well if i dont have to provide a dyno or time slip i ran a 7.1 second 1/4 and have a 1200rwkw ea stock pistons and rods and its na.
i think any stats should come with some sort of proof even if its just a g tech readout.
Its not even a question of trust, it is a question of how accurate the statistics are.
e.g. a 1/4 with a stop watch compared to 1/4 with an offical timing system.....big difference in accuracy.


Soooo.....if your car makes 1200rwkw N/A...how much power would it make with 20psi...?


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Re: Providing Proof

Postby Dumpsta » September 21st, 2009, 6:15 pm

Rollin wrote:
vulpine wrote:well if i dont have to provide a dyno or time slip i ran a 7.1 second 1/4 and have a 1200rwkw ea stock pistons and rods and its na.
i think any stats should come with some sort of proof even if its just a g tech readout.
Its not even a question of trust, it is a question of how accurate the statistics are.
e.g. a 1/4 with a stop watch compared to 1/4 with an offical timing system.....big difference in accuracy.


Soooo.....if your car makes 1200rwkw N/A...how much power would it make with 20psi...?


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Im sure he meant 17.1 seconds...and 120fwkw.

EDIT: Why cant you provide us with a duno or time slip.... disappointment :-(
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Re: Providing Proof

Postby Gozza » September 21st, 2009, 11:14 pm

Malakai wrote:
Gozza wrote:LOL - need employment much Brett? I know what Matt is saying. I don't know if its directed at anybody in particular

I recon you fudged your dyno figure gozza, I haven't seen a sheet yet.

16psi to make 300hp... sucks to be you. You know everyone is thinking it.


well its between 13-14psi for 310rwhp. and i dont need any more than that to hose your ass. i know you posted this before the other thread but i only just read it. consider it a delayed reaction
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Re: Providing Proof

Postby vulpine » September 22nd, 2009, 3:57 pm

Dumpsta wrote:
Rollin wrote:
vulpine wrote:well if i dont have to provide a dyno or time slip i ran a 7.1 second 1/4 and have a 1200rwkw ea stock pistons and rods and its na.
i think any stats should come with some sort of proof even if its just a g tech readout.
Its not even a question of trust, it is a question of how accurate the statistics are.
e.g. a 1/4 with a stop watch compared to 1/4 with an offical timing system.....big difference in accuracy.


Soooo.....if your car makes 1200rwkw N/A...how much power would it make with 20psi...?


;)


Im sure he meant 17.1 seconds...and 120fwkw.

EDIT: Why cant you provide us with a duno or time slip.... disappointment :-(

actually thats very close lol. I have enough gear to make it 390rwkw, its just not in the car.
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Re: Providing Proof

Postby ef_falcon » September 22nd, 2009, 4:22 pm

who cares all i wanna see is a ef turbo leave me for dead at the lights wat a sound. :beg:
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