EB Ghia's ghia. Written off. MODS PLEASE LOCK THREAD

[EB_Ghia]

also on another note...

is anyone chasing a au series 3 coil pack? i have one im not needing. and also possibly a au egas bbm.
straight gas manifold which none of the injector bosses have been drilled etc

[EB_Ghia]

some more progress this weekend.

kyle came up to my parents with me to get the motors swapped.
which meant bonnet off.
remove old motor.. take the engine mounts off and fit them to the au motor.. swap motors over put bonnet back on so it was re aligned correctly.
and push the eb out of the way so dad can fix his car.. (he somehow broke the 1st\reverse band in the auto of his car, ea 3 spd)

i drained the oil out of the old motor when it was on the gantry still.
black as **** with metal chunks..
so to find out what died... i have to pull it apart, im thinking bits of main bearings.
and i gotta admit i wasnt treating it very niceley on the way up to ballarat when i drove it up there a week ago.. and to think it made it to sydney and back like that.

so here are some more piccys..
the old banished eb motor.. lol but im going to keep the tickford head though




just dunno why cbf'd cleaning the engine bay.


some more of the au motor




to get around the k frame issue i just ground the sump down for the clearance i needed

[huggiebear]

did you get it all bolted in and running?

[EB_Ghia]

did you get it all bolted in and running?

no.. still got to source a few things huggie
but that's next weekends job now anyway. will be going as far as i can till i run out of parts to fit. which i hope it will run first try after i put petrol back in it

cant really drive it if i had the manifolds on anyway as the rear main seal on the eb motor failed it has murdered the friction plate..
so during the week i'll be sourcing the majority of the parts to get it going.
dont need much.. just little things that i forgot i needed. but that issue is being sorted.

[EB_Ghia]

it runs! very well too ive got to admit.
went up to mum and dads with one goal in mind was to have the eb running well enough to drive.

went up there and had to fit the manifolds only have to take the extractors back off due to a stupid oversight of mine.
with the original eb motor. i got away with using the standard bolts for the extractors.
for some reason the au motor these bottomed out so i had to waste half a day to go into ballarat to get some shorter ones.. got the extractors back on.

then fitted the clutch. dad sourced another friction plate for me as the rear main failed on the last motor and fucked the friction plate.
cleaned everything up with a few cans of brake clean to make sure all the oil was gone.
got the trans back in. tailshaft and the 2nd half of the extractors. then refilled the trans again lol.

then got to work fitting the serpintine setup.
i originally wasnt going to go serp. but as my alternator and power steering pump were pretty stuffed. considering i sourced everything cheap i decided to go to it afterall.
got the wiring sorted for the alt as the eb had a different plug which i had to change so i could fit the au alt
then got the rest of the serp stuff on.

put the inlet manifold back on and all the associated wiring.. and put the hoses and the el radiator in with the thermos.

then fitted the dizzy.
got it to start on petrol to find i got the timing out by a few teeth. so the dizzy came out and i got it right the second time lol.
hooked up the gas stuff and set the base timing properly when the motor had warmed up a little.
i got it around standard atm.. but hell i wasnt going all out considering i havent touched the gas so that can be played with when its retuned properly

took it for a spin..
im very happy with the motor. goes really good.
and it hasnt skipped a beat at all.

but now ive bored everyone with me writing i'll post some piccys





in its current finished state.. i have to wash it still lol


just a quick note on the old motor..
when i was pulling the old motor out. i had oil in the intake. more than there should of been
so it appears i had some blowby happening..
motor felt pretty gutless too.
also i have fresh coolant marks down the block so i warped the head and blew the head gasket by the looks of it.
but i'll get around to dismantling it to see what broke as something is broken due to chunks of metal coming out with the oil..

[Maximus]

Good work man. Where did you find the XH tensioner to make the serpentine setup work? I got quoted $480 from ford!

[EB_Ghia]

Good work man. Where did you find the XH tensioner to make the serpentine setup work? I got quoted $480 from ford!

thanks..
it isnt a xh one mate.. its a au one. im running all au acessories bar the ef a\c compressor. with a custom belt.

devlxr and efghir worked out how to do it. thats where i got my info from.
i can forward on the e-mail if you would like.. or if you can get on aff. devlxr has a tutorial with piccys in the ozecruisers section

btw you can get the belt and xh tensioners from e-bay.. iirc around the 160 mark.
EDIT
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Alternator-Drive ... 3ca85fdd46

i chose not to as au tensioners are easier to find at wreckers than xh. just got to get around to getting a second belt just to keep in the boot lol (just for my own peice of mind)

[Maximus]

Ohh ok then, looks like you've got a log manifold in the photos? i thought au tensioners fouled on them?

I think the tensioners on ebay are for BBM only as well. It says they're for XH xr6 only and i think they had BBM.

How many Ks did the EGas motor have on it?

[huggiebear]

the AU ones can work with the log manifold, if you do a suggested and look it up you will see how it works

[EB_Ghia]

Ohh ok then, looks like you've got a log manifold in the photos? i thought au tensioners fouled on them?

I think the tensioners on ebay are for BBM only as well. It says they're for XH xr6 only and i think they had BBM.

How many Ks did the EGas motor have on it?

log manifold is fitted..
mine doesnt foul actually. but i did grind a slight amount off the tensioner to give some more clearance.

from what i read they ask what your chasing it for and you just tell them its a xh with a log manifold. iirc the early xh's had serp and the log manifold mate.
also give bursons a ring.. i think they quoted me the same as e bay retail, but i get trade prices though..

egas had just on 160thou on the clock. pulled the rocker cover off at the wreckers and it being as tidy as it was it was a done deal

[Maximus]

Fair enough. That's a good pickup. little hard to find the egas motors. what did you pay for it in the end?

[EB_Ghia]

Fair enough. That's a good pickup. little hard to find the egas motors. what did you pay for it in the end?

$265 for the motor with all accessories. minus the serp belt.
but all up inc oils and the new clutch it cost me around $450 to go the au motor. i havent actually added up the receipts.

[huggiebear]

i just picked up an EF, complete.. minor exterior panel work needed (rolled, no straight panels lol) for $100, so my lanes getting EF interior and dash, so it will be running coil packs too

loving your work on this, we need more boxcars out there.. too many AU/BA's these days

[EB_Ghia]

i just picked up an EF, complete.. minor exterior panel work needed (rolled, no straight panels lol) for $100, so my lanes getting EF interior and dash, so it will be running coil packs too

loving your work on this, we need more boxcars out there.. too many AU/BA's these days

cool..
sounds like your about to have fun swapping looms.

thanks..
there probably wont be much more done to this. being a ghia it already has all the good stuff i wanted to do to the ea.
just a few things i have in mind to make it tidier.

but wont be going the forced induction route. will be keeping the car n\a

[EB_Ghia]

ok.. had a closer look at the old motor.

i blew the headgasket, but that aint nothing compared to the damage i did.
snapped the stupid 3 rib belt on a trip up to sydney in january and boiled the bastard just outside albury 2 am in the morning..
the downside to having a big battery i suppose. cos it was a cool night and it typically ran cool. i wasnt keeping an eye on it, but the overtemp light came on before the discharge light came on.. and considering the waterpump and alt run on the same belt i had to laugh..


when i did the headgasket last year i had more carbon on the pistons.. motor is very noticeably cleaner.
it was sucking in water after boiling the motor in albury early this year.. but as i killed the radiator too, i was just topping it up to keep it mobile.
timing chain guide broke.. but its a common issue in those anyway
all my rings died, so that explains the lack of power, blow by, and the oil comsumption. also why the oil turned dark so friggen quick too!

i also had some odd marks that i saw when the headgasket was done last year.. but those had polished back out..
no 5 and 6 had badly grabbed the block and im lucky i didnt seize the motor.. it also appears i have cracked the block too.
in all the bores i have a funny mark that the camera couldnt pick up. but it is a mark that goes like a spiral that doesnt match anything that the pistons could do.. also the odd cracks are in every single bore anyway.
but the worse is no 5 and 6

so im going to be scrapping the block.
cos if i rebuilt it, it would be preying on my mind it was a time bomb waiting to let go..
but really if i went nuts and built a a motor for power and strength i cant go past the au motor really cos the bottom end is stronger than the eb one.

but anyways.. i'll dig out some piccys
didnt get much as i only had the phone.. and the battery went flat on me..







thing that surprised me though.. it was still clean inside considering what died..and no i havent cleaned it..
but i suppose i really cant be that surprised.. being it been run on mainly lpg since "96"




so the chunks i was getting were nothing more than timing chain guides..


all the bearings are rooted. but consitent though so there isnt one that stands out really

[EB_Ghia]

thought i might threadmine my own thread.
not much had happened to the eb apart fitting new bushes throughout. (nolathane) thanks bigtim and hybrid34!
fitting better extractors (gone from genies to pacemaker 4480's)
swapping the lpg looms over and getting it to run right, after the original lpg loom gave issues

1 day before i fitted a new catback system to it.. so im a little annoyed there. just more annoyed as i didnt get to enjoy it

last thursday i was involved in a accident. writing the car off
what happened..
car 1 brake tested car 2
car 2 and 3 stopped. i hit a section of smooth tarmac and slid and hit car 3 shunting it into car 2.
car 1 drove off before we got the rego
so i was the 4th car in the mix.
all i can say is thank fark the eb is insured. only had 3rd party.. but the other 2 cars will be fixed (im deemed at fault anyways)

the eb is rooted. so when a few debts are paid off as i had to borrow $$ to pay my excess and towing. a nc-dc fairlane is on the list.
that way i can use all the good bits out of the eb in the new car
wont be reusing the e-gas motor if i go another 6 without inspecting the damage as the top of the airbox popped off and the motor swallowed enough coolant to be hard to start the day after and running rough as ****.
(i started it as i cbf'd pushing it to where it is now)

im just chalking it up as a lesson learnt, and moving on from it.
but i wont be parting it until i have a replacement car and have taken everything i want out of it first..

but here is some pics..



had to tear the bar off to get it on the trailer.. couldn't get to the bolts anyways












now waiting on me to decide on its fate..
handed in the rego as one of the plates went missing and the fact ive done structrual damage.. its not worth trying to fix
hence my plans to get a straight car when funds permit in a couple of months i hope

[huggiebear]

sorry to hear about the accident, why not take that gold EA thats in the background of one of the pics covered in grass? might not be much but has potential

[EB_Ghia]

sorry to hear about the accident, why not take that gold EA thats in the background of one of the pics covered in grass? might not be much but has potential

thats my sisters..
it has a leaking plenum afaik. as ive tried to look for the leak.
and last time it was rego'd it was a major headfuck to register. as its actually a dec 87 model.
considering vicroads gave us issues.. i'd hate to know what sort of headaches i'd have trying to insure it.

also none of the new rear control arm bushes would fit as im under the understanding ea use a smaller bush compared to series 2 eb?
as good of a idea it is.. its too much of a headache to bother.
i've had the idea of fitting everything to my old ea.. but it has acco damage too but not as bad externally but underneath its stuffed.