Dylans HSV VE Maloo R8 #39 now with more EL :-(

by **Rollin** » July 15th, 2010, 9:40 pm

LOW_XR wrote:agree fully with you bout the E2 looking shit(although i dont mind the VE2 senators.plain bonnet. they look ok) and the vision is so poor its not funny.
and if you hate them (holdens) soo much leave and work at ford! im sure that would be a dream job, never have to work on shit boxes ever again.

lol dude ford e series are not the greatest things in the world i hate to tell you.you always talk like there the best and everything else is shit.

I think you misunderstand - I hate all cars, some just a lot more than others. There is no car on earth that doesn't leak, break, make strange noises or generally be an expensive pain in the ass, no matter how much you spend. There is no point me changing manufacturers and basically throwing away all of the product knowledge I have gained. Any move I make will be out of the automotive industry for good.

As I said, I'm a mechanic. Have been for more than 10 years, I've worked on a million different cars from a hundred different makes. To figure out which is the 'best' car of all you'd need to decide what criteria you are going to use to base that decision upon. E-series are piss easy to work on, have an amazing level of parts interchangability, are cheap and highly 'modifiable' (If that's even a word), so they are my preference.

If you've spent any time in a VE engine bay you'll find that under the big plastic covers they look like crap and are crap to work on, and there is nowhere to put your tools or the bolts and miscellaneous crap you remove while you work.

Besides all that, the most important passive safety aspect of any vehicle is the ability to see other traffic and road hazards, and the VE is like peering out of a letterbox. While someone has got their hand through the slot and is poking you in the eye with their fingers. Fail. I just can't get past that. FG have a 5 star crash rating and yet their pillars are nowhere near as big - go figure.

Also: Why has the white lettering been rubbed off your brake calipers? And where is the little dot that makes up the 'hole' in the 'A' in Maloo? I love holden build quality.

by **LOW_XR** » July 15th, 2010, 9:56 pm

Rollin wrote:
LOW_XR wrote:agree fully with you bout the E2 looking shit(although i dont mind the VE2 senators.plain bonnet. they look ok) and the vision is so poor its not funny.
and if you hate them (holdens) soo much leave and work at ford! im sure that would be a dream job, never have to work on shit boxes ever again.

lol dude ford e series are not the greatest things in the world i hate to tell you.you always talk like there the best and everything else is shit.

I think you misunderstand - I hate all cars, some just a lot more than others. There is no car on earth that doesn't leak, break, make strange noises or generally be an expensive pain in the ass, no matter how much you spend. There is no point me changing manufacturers and basically throwing away all of the product knowledge I have gained. Any move I make will be out of the automotive industry for good.

As I said, I'm a mechanic. Have been for more than 10 years, I've worked on a million different cars from a hundred different makes. To figure out which is the 'best' car of all you'd need to decide what criteria you are going to use to base that decision upon. E-series are piss easy to work on, have an amazing level of parts interchangability, are cheap and highly 'modifiable' (If that's even a word), so they are my preference.

If you've spent any time in a VE engine bay you'll find that under the big plastic covers they look like crap and are crap to work on, and there is nowhere to put your tools or the bolts and miscellaneous crap you remove while you work.

Besides all that, the most important passive safety aspect of any vehicle is the ability to see other traffic and road hazards, and the VE is like peering out of a letterbox. While someone has got their hand through the slot and is poking you in the eye with their fingers. Fail. I just can't get past that. FG have a 5 star crash rating and yet their pillars are nowhere near as big - go figure.

Also: Why has the white lettering been rubbed off your brake calipers? And where is the little dot that makes up the 'hole' in the 'A' in Maloo? I love holden build quality.

yeah thats your opinion man. what new car is nice looking when you take of the engine covers? boss motors are ugly as **** under there. its all what you like. id rather pay under 40k for this and at least get my money back when i sell it than own another eb and spend 25k on it , just to get 8k back
i understand e series are cheap and can be modded easy as all hell. but now i want a car that goes, looks, stops and drives well.

also good spot on the bit missing on the "a" in maloo. didnt even know it was meant to be there

by **falcon4life** » July 15th, 2010, 10:12 pm

Rollin wrote:If you've spent any time in a VE engine bay you'll find that under the big plastic covers they look like crap and are crap to work on, and there is nowhere to put your tools or the bolts and miscellaneous crap you remove while you work.

Besides all that, the most important passive safety aspect of any vehicle is the ability to see other traffic and road hazards, and the VE is like peering out of a letterbox. While someone has got their hand through the slot and is poking you in the eye with their fingers. Fail. I just can't get past that. FG have a 5 star crash rating and yet their pillars are nowhere near as big - go figure.

+1

by **Kaddis** » July 15th, 2010, 10:13 pm

Nice work Dylan!

Many plans for it? I'm loving cruising around in a new stock ute everything just runs so smooth.

by **Parfrey** » July 15th, 2010, 11:14 pm

looks allright.. not too bad for a holden

haha

would look good with the newer wheels on it cos that the first thing i notice...
i thought boss motors look half decent under the bonnet? 4L dont look that bad either..
whats the v8 like compaired to a XR6T?

by **Michael (HYPOEB)** » July 15th, 2010, 11:30 pm

Theres a blown VE SS ute down the road from my joint making 430rwkw on a stock bottom end and theres plenty around with 300+rwkw. So they seem to be pritty good motors! Any plans to do anything to this thing?

by **Rollin** » July 16th, 2010, 12:36 am

Yeah the current LSx motors are pretty reliable. 430rwkw is great on a stock bottom end, go ask the guy how much his blower kit cost him haha.

by **67rce** » July 16th, 2010, 2:25 am

Rollin wrote:Yeah the current LSx motors are pretty reliable. 430rwkw is great on a stock bottom end, go ask the guy how much his blower kit cost him haha.

I can answer that now - $15k - Tuning Extra!!!!!!!!

by **Josh L** » July 16th, 2010, 6:41 am

Me n Dylan know a bloke with a VE wagon (Berlina?) anyway, with the Harrop kit he originally got 460ish rwkw and then got it detuned for the safety of the engine.

by **[Sterling]** » July 16th, 2010, 7:50 am

falcon4life wrote:
Rollin wrote:If you've spent any time in a VE engine bay you'll find that under the big plastic covers they look like crap and are crap to work on, and there is nowhere to put your tools or the bolts and miscellaneous crap you remove while you work.

Besides all that, the most important passive safety aspect of any vehicle is the ability to see other traffic and road hazards, and the VE is like peering out of a letterbox. While someone has got their hand through the slot and is poking you in the eye with their fingers. Fail. I just can't get past that. FG have a 5 star crash rating and yet their pillars are nowhere near as big - go figure.

+1

Nice post you fucking monkey.

As I said before Dylan I love it! It's massive and over the top and that's what I love!

by **Michael (HYPOEB)** » July 16th, 2010, 12:20 pm

Rollin wrote:Yeah the current LSx motors are pretty reliable. 430rwkw is great on a stock bottom end, go ask the guy how much his blower kit cost him haha.

Already have. $18500 :shock:

by **Parfrey** » July 16th, 2010, 5:10 pm

how much is it going to cost to get the same power your ba had?

by **Rollin** » July 16th, 2010, 6:50 pm

[Sterling] wrote:
falcon4life wrote:
Rollin wrote:If you've spent any time in a VE engine bay you'll find that under the big plastic covers they look like crap and are crap to work on, and there is nowhere to put your tools or the bolts and miscellaneous crap you remove while you work.

Besides all that, the most important passive safety aspect of any vehicle is the ability to see other traffic and road hazards, and the VE is like peering out of a letterbox. While someone has got their hand through the slot and is poking you in the eye with their fingers. Fail. I just can't get past that. FG have a 5 star crash rating and yet their pillars are nowhere near as big - go figure.

+1

Nice post you fucking monkey.

As I said before Dylan I love it! It's massive and over the top and that's what I love!

Er...was that directed at me or at falcon4life?

by **BRADMAN** » July 16th, 2010, 7:02 pm

Great Pickup Dylan,

Has got everything that opens and closes or turns on and off.
Very Clean unit (as it should be for those kms)
And seems to have plenty of poke for a holden

nah just playing, it is a real tuff looking car....and nice and comfy to ride in

Only thing thats annoying....as you said....visibility is not good....esp for us short people

Cant wait for a ride when its not busy on the road and not at night.

Dont get bored of this one!!

Brad

by **falcon4life** » July 17th, 2010, 8:46 am

uote="Rollin"]

[Sterling] wrote:
falcon4life wrote:
Rollin wrote:If you've spent any time in a VE engine bay you'll find that under the big plastic covers they look like crap and are crap to work on, and there is nowhere to put your tools or the bolts and miscellaneous crap you remove while you work.

Besides all that, the most important passive safety aspect of any vehicle is the ability to see other traffic and road hazards, and the VE is like peering out of a letterbox. While someone has got their hand through the slot and is poking you in the eye with their fingers. Fail. I just can't get past that. FG have a 5 star crash rating and yet their pillars are nowhere near as big - go figure.

+1

Nice post you fucking monkey.

As I said before Dylan I love it! It's massive and over the top and that's what I love!

Er...was that directed at me or at falcon4life?[/quote]

me but VE's suck to work on

by **LOW_XR** » July 18th, 2010, 9:55 pm

Kaddis wrote:Nice work Dylan!

Many plans for it? I'm loving cruising around in a new stock ute everything just runs so smooth.

yeah loving having such a new car.drives so much better than any other car ive had. got a few plans but see what happens....

Parfrey wrote:looks allright.. not too bad for a holden haha

would look good with the newer wheels on it cos that the first thing i notice...
i thought boss motors look half decent under the bonnet? 4L dont look that bad either..
whats the v8 like compaired to a XR6T?

i like the newer wheels but they are the 20's i think? cbf paying for tyres and i like the way it rides now.
haha just shit stirring man. i love the look of a ba xr6t engine.so much room and look cool

well for a stock car its not bad. skates 2nd pretty well. ive been told these have 250ish rwkw so id love to see how they go with 300+ kw.

by **LOW_XR** » July 18th, 2010, 9:58 pm

Josh L wrote:Me n Dylan know a bloke with a VE wagon (Berlina?) anyway, with the Harrop kit he originally got 460ish rwkw and then got it detuned for the safety of the engine.

Reece? if so yeah VE ss wagon, runs 430rwkw on daily tune and 460 on tuff tune.all with stock fuel lines and fuel pump.not too bad.

by **LOW_XR** » July 18th, 2010, 10:01 pm

[Sterling] wrote:
falcon4life wrote:
Rollin wrote:If you've spent any time in a VE engine bay you'll find that under the big plastic covers they look like crap and are crap to work on, and there is nowhere to put your tools or the bolts and miscellaneous crap you remove while you work.

Besides all that, the most important passive safety aspect of any vehicle is the ability to see other traffic and road hazards, and the VE is like peering out of a letterbox. While someone has got their hand through the slot and is poking you in the eye with their fingers. Fail. I just can't get past that. FG have a 5 star crash rating and yet their pillars are nowhere near as big - go figure.

+1

Nice post you fucking monkey.

As I said before Dylan I love it! It's massive and over the top and that's what I love!

haha cheers dude. its way over the top. :drinks2:

by **LOW_XR** » July 18th, 2010, 10:08 pm

Parfrey wrote:how much is it going to cost to get the same power your ba had?

less than what it cost me with the ba. :good:

BRADMAN wrote:Great Pickup Dylan,

Has got everything that opens and closes or turns on and off.
Very Clean unit (as it should be for those kms)
And seems to have plenty of poke for a holden nah just playing, it is a real tuff looking car....and nice and comfy to ride in
Only thing thats annoying....as you said....visibility is not good....esp for us short people

Cant wait for a ride when its not busy on the road and not at night.

Dont get bored of this one!!

Brad

haha cheers man. i took the hard lid off tonight (got to pick up a motor tomorrow) and there is heaps better vision.
i have a feeling i wont get bored of this anytime soon. but ive said that in the past.

by **LOW_XR** » July 18th, 2010, 10:13 pm

by **Parfrey** » July 18th, 2010, 10:21 pm

haha fair enough ay i hate buying tyres too! i thought it woulda been more expensive for big power?
my house mate has a VE ss wagon, its nice as to drive too.. makes my car feel flogged out! Understandable tho his has only done 25,000km. goes ok but i think the goon's are heavier than the utes?

i also had a bit of a run with a VE GTS yesterday... went better than i thought (dunno if it was stock?) but still not as good as the ol 4L :-P

by **LOW_XR** » July 18th, 2010, 10:43 pm

haha nice. the turbo xr6t's are just awesome. love them. but id spend to much money on them hahah.

well ive been told that with ve LS2 you do cam, OTR intake, exhaust and tune and they reckon 330-340 rwkw.

by **Parfrey** » July 18th, 2010, 10:52 pm

that will be nice, a v8 with that sort of power NA would be alot of fun on the street.. sux the boss motors aren't as good.. this new 5.0L looks like it might be tho.

to do those things to it would it be around 5 or 6g's??

by **Rollin** » July 18th, 2010, 11:25 pm

You should take it to the drags and do a few runs with and without the hard cover - I'd be very interested to see which setup is quicker. You'd prob get better traction off the line with the hard cover, but the extra weight might cost you some time....I don't know which setup would be more efficient aerodynamically...

I saw an episode of mythbusters where they compared the fuel consumption of two F150s, one with tailgate up, one down, and no hardcover on either, the one with the tailgate up actually had better fuel consumption due to the air in the tray 'tumbling' and making the air flow over the tray rather than getting 'caught' on the tailgate.

by **Phillis** » July 18th, 2010, 11:48 pm

fucking destroyed someones pet rabbit in this thing on friday night. i like it better now!

by **bentls** » July 19th, 2010, 7:08 am

For drags you would just remove hard lid and the tail Gate

by **Rollin** » July 19th, 2010, 6:21 pm

bentles - did you not read the bit in my post where mythbusters got better fuel consumption with the tailgate fitted and closed? Better fuel consumption = more slippery = more speed. The question is whether the hardcover is even better again taking into account the weight penalty, or not...

by **bentls** » July 19th, 2010, 6:36 pm

rollin, did you not take into account the fact i know everything?

by **LOW_XR** » July 19th, 2010, 10:21 pm

Parfrey wrote:that will be nice, a v8 with that sort of power NA would be alot of fun on the street.. sux the boss motors aren't as good.. this new 5.0L looks like it might be tho.

to do those things to it would it be around 5 or 6g's??

yeah i think a few mods and the new 5.0 will be killer.

yeah bout 5g will do those mods. dont know where i will go with thiis yet tho.

by **LOW_XR** » July 19th, 2010, 10:24 pm

Rollin wrote:You should take it to the drags and do a few runs with and without the hard cover - I'd be very interested to see which setup is quicker. You'd prob get better traction off the line with the hard cover, but the extra weight might cost you some time....I don't know which setup would be more efficient aerodynamically...

I saw an episode of mythbusters where they compared the fuel consumption of two F150s, one with tailgate up, one down, and no hardcover on either, the one with the tailgate up actually had better fuel consumption due to the air in the tray 'tumbling' and making the air flow over the tray rather than getting 'caught' on the tailgate.

meh doubt ill drag it.same as the ba. never raced that down the 1/4.

Phillis wrote:fucking destroyed someones pet rabbit in this thing on friday night. i like it better now!

lol dude i missed that!!! but i bet the poor little prick shit itself hahah

by **LOW_XR** » July 19th, 2010, 10:35 pm

or if you want a center armrest :thumbsup:

by **LOW_XR** » July 25th, 2010, 9:12 pm

by **NUT347** » July 25th, 2010, 9:29 pm

Everytime I look at the back of a VE Maloo I almost barf.

Each to there own tho... The interior is nice!!!

by **nstg8a** » July 25th, 2010, 9:29 pm

that shot looking straight at the back of the maloo shows why everyone whinges about the rear vision out the back window...

by **LOW_XR** » July 26th, 2010, 9:21 pm

NUT347 wrote:Everytime I look at the back of a VE Maloo I almost barf.

Each to there own tho... The interior is nice!!!

thats it! each to there own. i love it and thats all i care about

nstg8a wrote:that shot looking straight at the back of the maloo shows why everyone whinges about the rear vision out the back window...

yerp! they have very bad vision. was ok with the hard lid off tho.

by **Dansedgli** » July 26th, 2010, 9:23 pm

I heard this cant do skids?

by **LOW_XR** » July 26th, 2010, 9:28 pm

Dansedgli wrote:I heard this cant do skids?

shit, id like to know where you heard this as im still yet to do a skid in it(or attempt to). skates 2nd nice but...

by **Kaddis** » July 26th, 2010, 9:30 pm

LOW_XR wrote:haha nice. the turbo xr6t's are just awesome. love them. but id spend to much money on them hahah.

well ive been told that with ve LS2 you do cam, OTR intake, exhaust and tune and they reckon 330-340 rwkw.

My mates Maloo runs a 6.2l with mass cam, CAI, full exhaust with tune and that's got a healthy 310rwkw.

by **LOW_XR** » July 26th, 2010, 9:34 pm

Kaddis wrote:
LOW_XR wrote:haha nice. the turbo xr6t's are just awesome. love them. but id spend to much money on them hahah.

well ive been told that with ve LS2 you do cam, OTR intake, exhaust and tune and they reckon 330-340 rwkw.

My mates Maloo runs a 6.2l with mass cam, CAI, full exhaust with tune and that's got a healthy 310rwkw.

ah ok seems a bit low? they boys up the street had a vz clubby on the dyno, decent cam, OTR, full x force twin 2.5 in and tune running 310rwkw and said you would see more from a L98.( and more again with twin 3'')

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