Dylans HSV VE Maloo R8 #39 now with more EL :-(

Rollin · Post by **Rollin** » February 7th, 2011, 4:14 pm

heebyJeebies+ stevo: Commodore driver, nuff said.

Dan, the HSV 6 litre is different to the Holden 6.0 (apparently anyway, they look identical to me....) so I'm not sure if a wrecker motor is really an option here.

Crate motor ftw.

someLS1 · Post by **someLS1** » February 7th, 2011, 4:27 pm

Rollin wrote:heebyJeebies+ stevo: Commodore driver, nuff said.

Dan, the HSV 6 litre is different to the Holden 6.0 (apparently anyway, they look identical to me....) so I'm not sure if a wrecker motor is really an option here.

Crate motor ftw.

There's def differences between the LS2 and the L98... fuucked if i know what they are... def take away from the originality throwin a holden 6ltr in!

Rollin · Post by **Rollin** » February 7th, 2011, 5:42 pm

Put a turbo 4 litre in it....

LUXO_8 · Post by **LUXO_8** » February 7th, 2011, 5:46 pm

knew that post was coming lol

Parfrey · Post by **Parfrey** » February 7th, 2011, 6:58 pm

Found out today a guy from work drowned the engine in his VE SS lol. engine group buy?? His isn't covered by insurance as far as we know...

Don't the hsv 6.0s have different heads?

LOW_XR · Post by **LOW_XR** » February 7th, 2011, 7:01 pm

Rollin wrote:
LOW_XR wrote: due to the rain being soo bad i didnt know about the water at this roundabout mate. if id known, i wouldnt of gone through
Yeah fair enough if you didn't see it due to the rain, I was more talking about people who do it on purpose (I watched a BMW X5 die a watery death in 2009 - it was following a pajero, the pajero pulled over to do a u-turn to avoid the water but the X5 guy drove around him, massive bow wave then glug glug glug....tow truck time)

yeah man i saw some video's on youtube and people are driving strait through it. as said, if id know bout the water i wouldnt of gone through it

Parfrey wrote:Really sad to see that happen to such a nice ute! are you going to remove the otr for the inspection? i know i would be!
U never know if they do cover it you might be able to wangle some sort of tuffer engine??

otr is off and stock intake is on. yer if its covered im looking at putting in a ls3 maybe. not to sure yet. dont want to count my chickens ya know?

LOW_XR · Post by **LOW_XR** » February 7th, 2011, 7:03 pm

heebyJeebies wrote:so you were driving around after you found out it was unregistered?

insurance would definitely try to use that against you i would think

well the cop said he was putting my name as the temp owner till i got it in my name. and i wasnt fined nor was my plates taken etc so im hoping that works in my favor

LOW_XR · Post by **LOW_XR** » February 7th, 2011, 7:06 pm

Dansedgli wrote:Is it only the motor that got damaged?

What is one worth from the wreckers?

unsure about hsv ls2 from wreckers. at this stage ill stay positive that it will be covered by insurance

the motor got it the worst really.

John_LS1 · Post by **John_LS1** » February 7th, 2011, 7:07 pm

hope it all works out for you man, i was shocked when i saw what happened to you on facebook. if you ever want to sell the ls2 let me know. wouldnt mind pulling it apart and checking one out.

LOW_XR · Post by **LOW_XR** » February 7th, 2011, 7:08 pm

Rollin wrote:heebyJeebies+ stevo: Commodore driver, nuff said.

Dan, the HSV 6 litre is different to the Holden 6.0 (apparently anyway, they look identical to me....) so I'm not sure if a wrecker motor is really an option here.

Crate motor ftw.

holden 6.0 does have a different head design that flow better than the hsv 6.0

not really sure what else is different.

fingers crossed for crete engine

LOW_XR · Post by **LOW_XR** » February 7th, 2011, 7:10 pm

Rollin wrote:Put a turbo 4 litre in it....

nah man dont feel like downgrading just yet

Parfrey wrote:Found out today a guy from work drowned the engine in his VE SS lol. engine group buy?? His isn't covered by insurance as far as we know...

Don't the hsv 6.0s have different heads?

yes to the heads.
why isnt his covered?

LOW_XR · Post by **LOW_XR** » February 7th, 2011, 7:12 pm

John_LS1 wrote:hope it all works out for you man, i was shocked when i saw what happened to you on facebook. if you ever want to sell the ls2 let me know. wouldnt mind pulling it apart and checking one out.

yeah man im gutted. not happy at all. im not sure if ill be allowed to keep the old motor id insurance goes ahead. although i was thinking it would make a killer table with a layer of glass on the top

private9 · Post by **private9** » February 7th, 2011, 7:19 pm

someLS1 wrote:
Rollin wrote:heebyJeebies+ stevo: Commodore driver, nuff said.

Dan, the HSV 6 litre is different to the Holden 6.0 (apparently anyway, they look identical to me....) so I'm not sure if a wrecker motor is really an option here.

Crate motor ftw.
There's def differences between the LS2 and the L98... fuucked if i know what they are... def take away from the originality throwin a holden 6ltr in!

Yeah, L98 has better intake & heads. Not a huge difference, but a difference nonetheless! L98 tend to be a bit easier to get hold of too.

Mr_4.0 · Post by **Mr_4.0** » February 7th, 2011, 7:44 pm

My understanding was always that if the car is unregistered it's only covered in your driveway. If driving withOut rego car is not covered.

Good luck with it man. It wouldn't surprise me if they didn't even check. I had trouble with an insurance claim 5 years ago and it's surprising what they do and don't check. Police reports included lol.

bentls · Post by **bentls** » February 7th, 2011, 8:14 pm

i honestly doubt they would even check it for rego... if an assessor comes out to look im sure he will just look at the sticker on the window and thats that....

OED666 · Post by **OED666** » February 7th, 2011, 8:23 pm

I thought all VE V8's were based on the L98.... :S

:S looks like I need to do more research. I used to know the differences between them all.

private9 · Post by **private9** » February 7th, 2011, 8:59 pm

OED666 wrote:I thought all VE V8's were based on the L98.... :S

:S looks like I need to do more research. I used to know the differences between them all.

HSV 6lt = LS2, then they upgraded to LS3 which is what Dylan should do

Holden 6lt = L98 for manual, L76 DOD for auto - current model is L77.

They shoulda stock with the 253 IMO

Rollin · Post by **Rollin** » February 7th, 2011, 9:10 pm

OED666 wrote:I thought all VE V8's were based on the L98.... :S

:S looks like I need to do more research. I used to know the differences between them all.

If you're pulling them apart and putting them back together you'd need to have them side by side to tell the difference it's so little.

Even the W427 motor looks the same (except for the sump, obviously).

falcon4life · Post by **falcon4life** » February 7th, 2011, 9:58 pm

My understanding is hsv = 6.2ltr, ss = 6.0ltr completely different head Design. Hsv head has much larger ports

Foreman at work said just under 7000 for new motor

someLS1 · Post by **someLS1** » February 8th, 2011, 7:17 am

No no no... early ve (E1) HSV have LS2... which is a 6 ltr... the 6.2 ltr is the LS3 reserved for E2 & E3 hsvs yea id be erring at around 8k for one of those crate motors... they are still expensive i watched a cheapo GXP LS3 stat write off at the auctions got for 18k no one is wrecking LS3s cheap!

falcon4life · Post by **falcon4life** » February 8th, 2011, 7:49 am

Ok, put an ls7 in it then

galapogos01 · Post by **galapogos01** » February 8th, 2011, 8:34 am

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someLS1 · Post by **someLS1** » February 8th, 2011, 8:48 am

falcon4life wrote:Ok, put an ls7 in it then

hehehe i think the W427 stat write off went at auctions for around 40-50k... an ls7 is worth upwards of 20k

Post by **TUFED6** » February 8th, 2011, 9:24 am

I wouldn't worry about it. Unless your really unlucky insurance will cover it.

I'd be hoping that they would write it off tho. Get to go again with something different/better and who knows what the water got into and fucked.

Kenaz · Post by **Kenaz** » February 8th, 2011, 10:09 am

bentls wrote:i honestly doubt they would even check it for rego... if an assessor comes out to look im sure he will just look at the sticker on the window and thats that....

Nup, they will definitely check the rego especially if it's considered a total loss. Unsure how this particular claim will be treated, fingers crossed RACV come good!

ClassicAU · Post by **ClassicAU** » February 8th, 2011, 10:14 am

Shit man, that sucks a fat one. Hope all goes well with the insurance. I’d have to agree on going for a write off too hey, god knows what else is damaged now. I would assume your agreed value is much higher than the purchase price? Just hope it comes through.

oneredED · Post by **oneredED** » February 8th, 2011, 5:41 pm

someLS1 wrote:
falcon4life wrote:Ok, put an ls7 in it then
hehehe i think the W427 stat write off went at auctions for around 40-50k... an ls7 is worth upwards of 20k

It went around $42500 IIRC. It's headed to NZ apparently.

falcon4life · Post by **falcon4life** » February 8th, 2011, 6:36 pm

I didnt say w427 just ls7 same motor as corvette z06

LOW_XR · Post by **LOW_XR** » February 8th, 2011, 7:04 pm

i think they will check rego. the cop put me down as a temp owner till its in my name i think. hope thats enough to get me over the line

as the car is under insured (market value) i dont want it to write off

im pretty sure it was only motor that copped the water as the bay was mostly dry after i hit the water.

i sent our quote through to racv this afternoon so im hoping to see an asseser this week some time *fingers crossed*

nstg8a · Post by **nstg8a** » February 8th, 2011, 7:14 pm

be a shame to write off something like that just for a shot engine... maybe the sheer amount of claims coming through might help out a bit.

Troutman · Post by **Troutman** » February 8th, 2011, 7:37 pm

Best of luck with it mate, fingers crossed.

For interest's sake, Holmart have new engines on special currently. There are a few on eBay too.

bentls · Post by **bentls** » February 8th, 2011, 8:27 pm

Ls9 or no balls

glenneaux · Post by **glenneaux** » February 8th, 2011, 8:44 pm

Really sorry to hear this as you know Dylan....

But man the **** up !
http://www.nelsonracingengines.com/engi ... Turbo.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

1175 HP with 1100 TQ using pump gas and 1650 HP with 1600
TQ using race gas at only 14 PSI.

This motor will get you in the
8’s at over 165 MPH in the quarter mile on pump gas.

^__________^

SLY5LT · Post by **SLY5LT** » February 8th, 2011, 10:01 pm

there were 3 car's that were under water (could'nt see them till yesterday when the water was drained) at the spot where you had the trouble's.
that part of the road should be back open in the morning ?
much damage to the other ute that was in front of you

?

Rollin · Post by **Rollin** » February 8th, 2011, 10:37 pm

Can someone please tell me what the **** a 'TQ' is please? I'd assume it's a unit of measurement similar to a Nm or an Lb/Ft but I'm stuffed if google can help me with this one. How can you have "1100 TQ" ?????

Hayden · Post by **Hayden** » February 9th, 2011, 12:12 am

could be short for torque

LUXO_8 · Post by **LUXO_8** » February 9th, 2011, 5:42 am

Don't start this Jeremy clarkson bs of calling it "torques". **** me it shits me when he says that!!

[Sterling] · Post by **[Sterling]** » February 9th, 2011, 5:45 am

LUXO_8 wrote:Don't start this Jeremy clarkson bs of calling it "torques". **** me it shits me when he says that!!

Don't be talking shit about the big JC.

Rollin · Post by **Rollin** » February 9th, 2011, 5:23 pm

Hayden wrote:could be short for torque

'Torque' is twisting force, not a unit of measurement. You can have torque, or no torque. Yes or no, on or off. No possibility for anything else.

You want to give a torque measurement you need to give a unit of measurement such as a Newton-metre (Nm) or a Pounds-per-Foot (LB/Ft).

It's impossible to have 1100 'torques'.

bentls · Post by **bentls** » February 9th, 2011, 5:38 pm

ok rollin, lets just use our assumptuous brains of ours..

lets start with some facts

nelson racing engines are an american based company

americans are ignorant

thus they are talking lbs/ft of torque because there cant be any other units of measurements because if america doesn't use them as their standard unit of choice then they are no longer considered useful to americans so why would any americans ever use nm to measure torque....

shit spelling shit grammar and shit bloke typing... but i thought it was funny... so eat a dick