The Ev-olution continues - more lol's within

ClassicAU · Post by **ClassicAU** » November 28th, 2013, 6:23 pm

So the beast is officially mine! Passed road worthy today, all it needed was windscreen wiper blades and the handbrake to be adjusted! I put brand new tyres on it yesterday just to be sure, Toyo Teo Plus in 235/45/17 all round. They said everything else checked out, ball joints, suspension, no oil leaks! Gotta be happy with that! So I transferred it and put my black and white plates on it, now with lpg stickers. Also picked up a new black Momo gear knob from the Rat Global eBay store.
I'm not happy with the exhaust though, and having a look as it was up on the hoist confirmed what i was told by the previous owner. It's a stock twin system with the mufflers removed. So it's straight pipe from the cats back to the tiny little muffler thing up behind the bumper. Sounds ok from inside the car, but sounds ridiculous outside. Plus it's down on torque due to not having any back pressure. I plan to replace the whole system, maybe the cats too. I might also put slightly higher/softer springs in it too, as it is a little too jittery on bad surfaces. Other than that, I'm wrapped with the pickup!

misk · Post by **misk** » November 28th, 2013, 6:46 pm

fark thats a mint buy.
i'd love a manual 5l AU on injected gas as a daily, dunno why lol just love the sound.

EBOOST · Post by **EBOOST** » November 28th, 2013, 7:27 pm

Sounds alright to me haha.
Back pressure is a load of shit man.
That gas system is where your torque has gone

Good score this car!!

misk · Post by **misk** » November 28th, 2013, 7:38 pm

injected gas shouldn't lose much over petrol so maybe it just needs a proper tune.

ClassicAU · Post by **ClassicAU** » November 28th, 2013, 7:52 pm

I wish it was injected gas man! But alas it is just a standard mixer system. There was a green AUII XR8 manual ute with injected gas for sale a few months ago, but I'm happier with a sedan. The one good thing about this exhaust is the epic burble on the over run! Not sure if it's exactly healthy for the motor to be doing that, but it's fricken addictive!

misk · Post by **misk** » November 28th, 2013, 8:07 pm

ohh haha well then is it a 425 mixer?

misk · Post by **misk** » November 28th, 2013, 8:08 pm

nevermind i can see its not lol
josh is on the money then!

EBOOST · Post by **EBOOST** » November 28th, 2013, 9:31 pm

Yeah its a sprint gas system, was restrictive on my old eb v8 let alone this thing haha.

Ev if you off load those springs I'll take the rears!!!

ClassicAU · Post by **ClassicAU** » November 29th, 2013, 8:02 am

Get me a set of Pedders lows Josh and I'll straight swap ya!

SnyperEB · Post by **SnyperEB** » November 29th, 2013, 10:04 am

Cant go wrong with Liquid Silver!!

Rollin · Post by **Rollin** » November 29th, 2013, 4:52 pm

Exhaust won't be your problem, LPG will.

Piss it off and use the money to convert to E85

justa6 · Post by **justa6** » November 30th, 2013, 6:17 am

You've changed the gear knob and tyres, I think you should leave it at that.

EBOOST · Post by **EBOOST** » November 30th, 2013, 6:29 am

Let him do the exhaust so it's not something that annoys him haha.

Just enjoy it for what it is ev

Rollin · Post by **Rollin** » November 30th, 2013, 9:32 am

Because changing the exhaust worked out so well on the last V8

ClassicAU · Post by **ClassicAU** » November 30th, 2013, 9:49 am

You mean on the 3V Rollin? That car's problems had nothing to do with the exhaust. Turns out it was just a coincidence that the ZF started to die as soon as I changed the exhaust. The system I had on the red AU was ficken mint! But I am in no rush to change anything else at this point. Maybe the springs, but that is not desperate either. I got through the week and lpg gauge still hasn't gone into the red yet! If I can keep that up I'll be laughing!

Actually, the one thing that I came up with last night was finding out how feasible it would be to convert the gas system to gas injection? No idea how much of the existing system could be used? Probably not worth it, just an idea I'm floating.

SnipeZ · Post by **SnipeZ** » November 30th, 2013, 10:14 am

BenJ converted his eb 6cyl to liquid injection from his standard.
Might have some idea as to what gets used and what gets thrown away.
Pretty sure it's everything gone except tank, filler and supply line

Cheers

apoc · Post by **apoc** » November 30th, 2013, 12:25 pm

Benj has vapour injection, which means you keep tank, filler and supply Line. Liquid needs another tank, pump, line, basically the whole
System

ClassicAU · Post by **ClassicAU** » November 30th, 2013, 12:40 pm

Thanks fellas. I did do a bit of reading after i posted that, and it seems that is definitely the case. So not worth it really, might as well have bought one without and converted from scratch! No matter. I think I'll go for a drive now!

misk · Post by **misk** » November 30th, 2013, 1:32 pm

lol you can buy the kit to convert it to injection for $400, but if you dont have the skills to install you have to pay obviously.

apoc · Post by **apoc** » November 30th, 2013, 3:03 pm

do you have a link to this 400$ system misk?

misk · Post by **misk** » November 30th, 2013, 4:40 pm

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Propane- ... 26886.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

there is others that are cheaper, but dont have time to search through them all atm

galapogos01 · Post by **galapogos01** » November 30th, 2013, 4:46 pm

Yeah, if you want to up the performance, look into vapour injection rather than changing the exhaust. But I reckon just leave it as-is, sounds like it gets good economy, sounds good and drives well!

Good buy.

krisisdog · Post by **krisisdog** » November 30th, 2013, 6:34 pm

Ev if you can get someone who knows what theyre doing to fit it up for you the vapour kit would be a good idea, especially if you plan to hang on to this one for a while.

chrispie123 · Post by **chrispie123** » December 1st, 2013, 1:11 pm

Lol who's trying to build their next car at Evs expense haha

ClassicAU · Post by **ClassicAU** » December 1st, 2013, 3:16 pm

Hmm, interesting. Thanks for the link Misk! I might eventually make some calls and see if any gas places are willing to do the job. I would rather get a new exhaust and springs first before anything else though.

And in other news, to help that cause, I sold the Turd today! Put it up on car sales and had three calls the following day. Got $1500 for it this afternoon!

misk · Post by **misk** » December 1st, 2013, 3:27 pm

chrispie123 wrote:Lol who's trying to build their next car at Evs expense haha

suggesting vapor injection is a bit different to pushing someone to turbo their car...

if its running good at the moment then theres no need to change until he wants more power, thats really it.

chrispie123 · Post by **chrispie123** » December 1st, 2013, 4:54 pm

Lol was only shit stirring

misk · Post by **misk** » December 1st, 2013, 4:57 pm

i know that lol, but i think ev has had his fair share of doing shit was prob a bit out of his depth, so maybe this car will be a good change?
time will tell...

ClassicAU · Post by **ClassicAU** » December 1st, 2013, 5:36 pm

As much as everyone is under the impression I fold to peer pressure, I like to think I have some autonomous thought about my purchases! At least lately anyway. The Raptor on the Red Baron worked out great as far as I am concerned. The only issues I ever had after the tune was sorted, was melted belts. That was due to trying to take the setup beyond it's limits. It was a street setup, and performed that task awesomely!

Anyway, as for the question of vapor injection on the new pickup, it is more for reliable performance anyway. It very much does not like being pushed when running on lpg as it is. Any more than half throttle and it will cough and splutter and generally hate life. But I just put that down to being a standard mixer setup that's only designed for regular economy driving. I figure if I want to push it, I will simply flick it to petrol. Runs completely fine on petrol. So I though an injection kit might help it perform better on lpg also. As I said, it's not desperate, just something I figure would be nice to have.

DJV8T5 · Post by **DJV8T5** » December 1st, 2013, 6:04 pm

I would look into the injection kits, my mate had one on his EF XR8, and just got a kit put on his BA XR8. He said it was so much nicer in the performance dept with the injection over the converter style setup. Still had the same balls on gas as on petrol with the injection.

SnipeZ · Post by **SnipeZ** » December 1st, 2013, 6:28 pm

Get better economy because there isn't a restriction in the air flow

Cheers

nothin suss · Post by **nothin suss** » December 1st, 2013, 9:14 pm

Sounds like a decent upgrade! Best thing is legally nothing would have to be plated or declared. It's probably in your interest to get someone knowledgable still to carry out the work for safety.

I wonder if anyone has fitted a system like that to an EGAS or DLPG factory vehicle?
Sorry about the hijack!

EBOOST · Post by **EBOOST** » December 1st, 2013, 9:19 pm

Yeah I've thought about it.
I'd love to do it to our wagon

ClassicAU · Post by **ClassicAU** » December 2nd, 2013, 8:29 am

Apparently there have been a couple of eGas cars converted, but I can't find much recent info. Does anyone have any suggestions of decent lpg shops in Melbourne I should call to get an idea?

misk · Post by **misk** » December 2nd, 2013, 8:42 am

lol that will be the hard part, finding a good cheap LPG place...

SnipeZ · Post by **SnipeZ** » December 2nd, 2013, 8:52 am

Apparently there is a good shop in Frankston. I'll try and get details for you.

Cheers

SnipeZ · Post by **SnipeZ** » December 2nd, 2013, 8:53 am

Had a few customers go through them.

Cheers

ClassicAU · Post by **ClassicAU** » December 2nd, 2013, 8:59 am

Haha, that's the one Misk!

SnipeZ wrote:Apparently there is a good shop in Frankston. I'll try and get details for you.

Cheers

Thanks dude! I don't mind driving over the other side of town if they are going to do a good job!

misk · Post by **misk** » December 2nd, 2013, 9:13 am

APS is real good but prob a bit exxy

Post by **Sunboost** » December 2nd, 2013, 9:14 am

Lol it's got like 260,000km just keep the mixer setup and save your dosh.